all this, and record numbers
Monkey_MCSE | 01/04/05
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Record Year
Bill4 | 01/04/05
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Read carefully the first paragraph
voska | 01/04/05
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Well gee, should we ask the crooks instead?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/04/05
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What?!
Jeff Spicoli | 01/04/05
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Is this response to me?
voska | 01/04/05
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bitty has tough time telling who crooks are
AmusedAtItAll | 01/04/05
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When I studied law
voska | 01/04/05
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Note that they don't define "piracy" either
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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Piracy AND theft ?!?
Spoon Jabber | 01/04/05
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Someone did steal U2's master CD
voska | 01/05/05
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Righttt....
GMTobias | 01/04/05
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All the same
Letophoro | 01/04/05
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Drama Queens
Been_Done_Before | 01/04/05
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These greedy pukes get no sympathy from me...
shawkins | 01/04/05
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They might stem piracy with fair and reasonable pricing
Dan__ | 01/04/05
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BMG and fair use
rpmyers1 | 01/04/05
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Please explain how to compete against your own stolen product?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/04/05
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What' s this have to do with the story?
voska | 01/04/05
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Yup, every crook thinks he is Robin Hood.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/04/05
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Keep it real at least
Spoon Jabber | 01/04/05
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Make it not worth "stealing"! Period.
Jeff Spicoli | 01/04/05
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Message has been deleted.
itanalyst | 01/04/05
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Too true Analyst
Jeff Spicoli | 01/04/05
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No Ax belittles the crime by doing this
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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Like calling all crimes of violence assault
voska | 01/04/05
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Um, I thought I called them crooks, not thieves.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/04/05
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Not when you refer to "stolen product"
Spoon Jabber | 01/04/05
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Theft the crime and theft the word.
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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Key words here
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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All property is not physical.
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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And for non-physical property, we have different laws and different words
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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Missed revenue is money you don't get.
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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Assumed revenue
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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You said there were real losses.
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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My bad then, but...
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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Sigh.
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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You can't steal what doesn't exist
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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You missed the "deprived" part
voska | 01/04/05
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Being deprived of the right to control copying...
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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You are not being deprived of physical property
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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Rights don't pay bills;...
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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And no one has deprived you of this
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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Change the story a bit then
NonZealot | 01/04/05
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Once again, terrible "analogy"
Jeff Spicoli | 01/04/05
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Again with the erroneous basis for your argument
Letophoro | 01/04/05
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Absolutely Letophoro!!! I Agree!!!
itanalyst | 01/04/05
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A copy can still have value.
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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But....
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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You're arguing from location in the statute book...
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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Ok not using laws
voska | 01/04/05
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No, I'm arguing the nature of the crime
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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RIAA has a major problem about their rights: ...
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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Two wrongs don't make a right (ooh, brutal pun)
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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Voska's example
AbsolutelyNot | 01/05/05
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Sophistry
Letophoro | 01/04/05
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Straining plausibility to the breaking point.
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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Re: Plausibility
Letophoro | 01/05/05
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Not much suspense.
Anton Philidor | 01/05/05
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A more stupid example does not exist
AmusedAtItAll | 01/04/05
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Outside a courtroom...
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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DING DING DINT
NonZealot | 01/04/05
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What, are you No Ax's boyfriend now?
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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That's splitting hairs
voska | 01/04/05
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People sued McDonald's because they were fat.
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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I'm so glad I don't live in the US
voska | 01/04/05
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McDonald's suit
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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Voska, were not all liberals
Spoon Jabber | 01/04/05
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Good one Spoon!
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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I thought you might like that
Spoon Jabber | 01/05/05
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Easy answer
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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Problem for No_Ax is...
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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Short term thinking and fear
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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We now agree completely. Good. (NT)
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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Nice try but no
NonZealot | 01/04/05
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Competing with free.
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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More than just living in fear
Chad_z | 01/04/05
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NonZealot:
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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Why pay for music?
voska | 01/04/05
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NonZealot again
AbsolutelyNot | 01/05/05
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Sorry, the answer doesn't work.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/04/05
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Then you're not trying hard enough
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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You compete by offering good products at fair prices
Dan__ | 01/04/05
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Good points...
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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Bogus...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/04/05
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Looks like 790 members in their cartel
Dan__ | 01/05/05
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Studios are the issue
AbsolutelyNot | 01/05/05
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I Could Care Less What These Idiots Say
itanalyst | 01/04/05
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Who is protecting the CONSUMER in all this ?
BitTwiddler | 01/04/05
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Bogus argument at best...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/04/05
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At least he has SOME argument
Jeff Spicoli | 01/04/05
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Ok, I'll bite..
Patrick Jones | 01/04/05
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Not really...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/04/05
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Really!
AbsolutelyNot | 01/05/05
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Who let you watch "Bill and Ted"?
AbsolutelyNot | 01/05/05
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Here's who is protecting the consumer
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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It should read Entertainment Execs can't afford 3rd house due to piracy
DarthRidiculous | 01/04/05
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So What? It IS their property after all.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/04/05
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Sure there mo frare!
Jeff Spicoli | 01/04/05
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No, it is not their property
azurensis | 01/04/05
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This proves you have no argument
NonZealot | 01/04/05
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No More Need To Argue With Him, He's Been PWNED Again
itanalyst | 01/04/05
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But when you correct lies, you only strengthen your argument
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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To the tic:
NonZealot | 01/04/05
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Uh, have you actually read anything I've written?
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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Crooks always try to find a loop hole.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/04/05
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Ok, the right term just for you.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/04/05
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The right term for you is:
AbsolutelyNot | 01/05/05
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The key difference
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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No differnce at all.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/04/05
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Got ya!
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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AH-HA!
AbsolutelyNot | 01/05/05
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4th house from online profits...
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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That would still shift the power
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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Any one who beleive this as a serious problem!!!
Mectron | 01/04/05
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Anyone sticking their head in the sand in denial has a serious problem.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/04/05
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Message has been deleted.
itanalyst | 01/04/05
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Bwahaha! YES!!! Sock it to him dude!
Jeff Spicoli | 01/04/05
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If this is true then you're gone, bitty
AmusedAtItAll | 01/04/05
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Who has their head in the sand? Let's see.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/04/05
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I Agree Totally!
itanalyst | 01/04/05
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You got the point (as oposed to some clown arround here)
Mectron | 01/04/05
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Um..
Patrick Jones | 01/04/05
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Have you Visited a Wal-Mart recently?
Mectron | 01/04/05
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Gee...
Patrick Jones | 01/04/05
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Agreed, But.....
itanalyst | 01/04/05
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Never worked retail, huh?
AbsolutelyNot | 01/05/05
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I paid for I, Claudius...
Anton Philidor | 01/04/05
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I see where you made your rather OBVIOUS mistake.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/04/05
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Are there any GOOD analogies?
Spoon Jabber | 01/04/05
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You can return a used car
AbsolutelyNot | 01/05/05
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Going the way of the music industry
Chad_z | 01/04/05
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Go-video
Roger Ramjet | 01/04/05
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Join the Electronic Frontier Foundation
Protector | 01/04/05
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Theft Vs. Copying - For No_Ax
itanalyst | 01/04/05
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A crook is a crook, is a crook. Prison is where they belong.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/04/05
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i hope they throw your butt in my cell ....
M_c | 01/04/05
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I'm speechless
NonZealot | 01/04/05
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PS Good job No Axe
NonZealot | 01/04/05
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Keep Telling Yourself That No_Ax
itanalyst | 01/04/05
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Whine, whine, whine.
Jack-Booted EULA | 01/04/05
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Blah Blah Blah and we forgot to mention....
M_c | 01/04/05
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Don't trust the RIAA/MPAA and their tech partners
tic swayback | 01/04/05
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They can't win the DRM battle
Chad_z | 01/04/05
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What a great solution!
NonZealot | 01/04/05
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You make a good point
voska | 01/05/05
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Nice try but no
NonZealot | 01/05/05
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Civil vs. Criminal acts
AbsolutelyNot | 01/05/05
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Yep!
AbsolutelyNot | 01/05/05
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One of the best posts of the day!
AbsolutelyNot | 01/05/05
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Know What? WHO CARES WHAT YOU THINK?
itanalyst | 01/05/05
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Another corporate group....
RTedrow | 01/05/05
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Entertainment industry dinosaurs
GFW_z | 01/05/05
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What has been copyrighted *Exactly*
mugsy! | 11/18/05
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you seem to miss the point
stgui | 11/19/05
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Like the pot calling the kettle black
Middle of the Road | 11/19/05
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