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The scientific conclusion...
... on the human role in global warming is that it's impossible to prove.


One supporter of the idea noted in print that if the effort were to continue long enough to obtain greater certainty, the opportunity to have political effect might pass.

This is about obtaining influence with a far from confirmed hypothesis.

Part of the problem is that the earth warms and cools, sonmetimes substantially, for no discernible reason fairly often. And these temperature changes are not consistent everywhere.

Models are not very useful in this type of analysis because they are based on assumptions that do not prove accurate. The times when past models underestimated warming effects, as with ice sheets, are widely reported. There's a cance we don't hear about errors in the model that have overestimated climate change.

During the 1970's there was a campaign to obtain political influence in response to Earth's cooling. Newsweek recently remembered its support for that effort.

But this time is different. Somehow.


To suggest a standard for evaluating claims: if the scince is accompanied by a recommendation of wholesale changes in the way people live, the important part of the effort has been the plan to gain control, rather than the analysis of available data.
(Including sketchy and unreliable dayta from decades ago.)
Posted by: Anton Philidor   Posted on: 01/24/07 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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What about Nuclear Energy?  nucrash | 01/24/07
In less than 20 years, nuclear is gone.  Anton Philidor | 01/24/07
Which is too bad  StanB | 01/24/07
I think you are wrong...  Linux User 147560 | 01/25/07
Only if we can store the waste in your back yard  John L. Ries | 01/24/07
Much of the fuel isn't fully spent in the first place  nucrash | 01/24/07
In the mean time...  John L. Ries | 01/24/07
It already IS stored in my back yard!  impala_sc | 01/25/07
How is 62% of energy wasted?  Anton Philidor | 01/24/07
Answer: California  nucrash | 01/24/07
Except...  Anton Philidor | 01/24/07
I'd like to see the actual breakdown...  Henry Miller | 01/25/07
Technical problems can have technical solutions.  Anton Philidor | 01/25/07
Conserve, but in a different way  Mark Miller | 01/25/07
Sounds to me like it IS the technology  Michael Kelly | 01/24/07
The Groebbel's effect  frgough | 01/24/07
Care to back that up with some facts?  Tigertank | 01/24/07
The scientific conclusion...  Anton Philidor | 01/24/07
Why it is different now.  enduser_z | 01/24/07
Better global warming than global cooling.  osreinstall | 01/25/07
Consumers not being able to AFFORD to is the problem.  HypnoToad72 | 01/24/07
Prejudice towards the inconvenient.  enduser_z | 01/24/07
Sorry, but other first world nations  Linux User 147560 | 01/24/07
Nasa satellite data  frgough | 01/24/07
Now why would we want to do that...  John L. Ries | 01/24/07
take a few years back to back however...  Jack-Booted EULA | 01/24/07
It's hard to imagine how people can *still* deny global warming  stevey_d | 01/24/07
Exaggeration  Anton Philidor | 01/24/07
But if you're going to crash and burn anyway...  Henry Miller | 01/25/07
Mankind went thru a few global warmings and coolings.  osreinstall | 01/25/07
I do question the cause  Mark Miller | 01/25/07
Everyone I know feels THEY'RE TOO IMPORTANT  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 01/24/07
Everyone switch to Electric Cars!  ffinder | 01/25/07
Zero emissions...  Henry Miller | 01/25/07
There solutions are simple in concept...  Linux User 147560 | 01/25/07
This just in: People are lazy and don't give a crap  ejhonda | 01/25/07
focus on transportation all wrong  impala_sc | 01/25/07
Nope... you are thinking 19th century...  Linux User 147560 | 01/25/07
You cannot kill big oil  osreinstall | 01/25/07
Been there checked it out...  Linux User 147560 | 01/25/07
Already have them bookmarked  osreinstall | 01/25/07
Hmmm well I still don't see the need for  Linux User 147560 | 01/25/07
Uppp never mind I found it...  Linux User 147560 | 01/25/07
Some people's needs vary.  osreinstall | 01/25/07
Some more links to check out.  Linux User 147560 | 01/25/07
Another design down under.  osreinstall | 01/25/07
Cool!  Linux User 147560 | 01/25/07
I thought it was too.  osreinstall | 01/26/07
I'm being real  impala_sc | 01/25/07
sorry about the italics  impala_sc | 01/25/07
terawatts per year  hart134@... | 01/25/07

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