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The law of unintended consequences: http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/UnintendedConsequences.html

The law of unintended consequences, often cited but rarely defined, is that actions of people?and especially of government?always have effects that are unanticipated or "unintended." Economists and other social scientists have heeded its power for centuries; for just as long, politicians and popular opinion have largely ignored it.; Posted by: tic swayback Posted on: 02/14/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Hi Ya ParadigmOdyssey | 02/14/05

Blinker Laws ParadigmOdyssey | 02/14/05

This will supplement what is already there... htotten | 02/14/05

Truer words have never been spoken Roger Ramjet | 02/14/05

Re: SSN Not to be used for identification rwilson@... | 05/11/05

Ya gotta laugh Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

I think it's only fair people get the fascism they voted for. Atlant | 02/15/05

Would this be better than what we have today? jwschull@... | 02/14/05

Just another step on the slippery slope. Laff | 02/14/05

"Your papers, please ..." Judas I. | 02/14/05

Time for a tin foil wallet. Squawkbox | 02/14/05

Our government is becoming the worst terrorist bjbrock | 02/14/05

I support this 100% toomuchgreeatea@... | 02/14/05

Database access tic swayback | 02/14/05

my direct marketing campaign Squawkbox | 02/14/05

My friend, you just summarized the problem well... BitTwiddler | 02/14/05

Privacy concerns aside, what good will this do? tic swayback | 02/14/05

Stop using your head and just accept what you are told! No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/14/05

Truly the modern day Republican motto Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

Motives tic swayback | 02/14/05

wrong Tic Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

I'm trying to be charitable tic swayback | 02/14/05

I agree Tic that at least to start not everyone Laff | 02/14/05

The law of unintended consequences tic swayback | 02/14/05

So your saying... No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/14/05

"security theater" Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

Actually I do not demand that anything be done. Laff | 02/14/05

YOU have that choice Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

I only hope that I can continue to have that choice. Laff | 02/14/05

Those who believe in a Heaven and a Hell should know Laff | 02/14/05

Yeah Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

Oh, sorry Jeff, "I forgot you were there". Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

Actually if I get the right sense of Jeff and he has a Laff | 02/14/05

Thank you Jimbo! Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

If you'd seen the movie Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

Yes I did see the movie...Billy Bob Thorton was it not? Laff | 02/14/05

I can't recall the ahem actor's name but he's the annoying Laff | 02/14/05

Steven Segal? Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

You are correct about the girls!!! Laff | 02/14/05

Please explain how this helps tic swayback | 02/15/05

Explanation Spoon Jabber | 02/15/05

(}:-) osreinstall | 02/14/05

No discussion needed, just one simple answer is all tic swayback | 02/14/05

Forgot about tone of voice osreinstall | 02/14/05

I knew you were being sarcastic... tic swayback | 02/14/05

Wait a minute, this is my country. No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/14/05

Yer right, Axey! Judas I. | 02/14/05

YES you are!!! Laff | 02/14/05

Almost right... No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/14/05

heh heh heh...I love you AX!!! Laff | 02/14/05

Wow! Linux User 147560 | 02/14/05

10.0....I Can't Believe I'm 100% Behind You On This One itanalyst | 02/14/05

Problem is we are the minority Linux User 147560 | 02/14/05

Even sheep reble at some point... No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/15/05

Too late, it's the government's country now Ronny102 | 02/14/05

Mainstream Media Still Asleep At The Wheel (NT) Pinkerton | 02/14/05

No they know exactly what they are doing. Laff | 02/14/05

the mainstream media is not... jdahs@... | 02/15/05

No laughing matter bob@... | 02/14/05

Best thing ever hheite@... | 02/14/05

Iraq war a total failure Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

The jury is not in ... ShadeTree | 02/14/05

Think he's missing the democracy point voska | 02/14/05

Ummm Voska Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

But as long as IRAQ is occupied voska | 02/14/05

But doesn't that go against the spirit of democracy? Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

How could that happen? rapson | 02/14/05

What I believe.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

Good questions Carl...but my answer to them is Laff | 02/14/05

Numbers Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

A very distant third and forth. What will be interesting Laff | 02/14/05

I wonder how many... Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

Now that "IS" funny....:) Laff | 02/14/05

I'll tell you.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

LOL! Jeff Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

No logical REASON to NOT have a follow up paper trail Laff | 02/14/05

Laff, did I misunderstand? Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

Hey Laff Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

Apparently I DID misunderstand. Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

Sorry Spoon I thought Jeff was going back to Ohio Laff | 02/14/05

Poor Carl Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

I sort of like a good spanking.....:) Laff | 02/14/05

Yeah Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

What I find interesting rapson | 02/15/05

Yup Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

So when will that happen for you? Spoon Jabber | 02/15/05

OK..I will try to answer you point for point Laff | 02/15/05

You missed alot! Spoon Jabber | 02/15/05

And since this is the case (I trust you) then I Laff | 02/15/05

Counterpoints rapson | 02/15/05

Ah but..... Laff | 02/15/05

what you find interesting... jdahs@... | 02/15/05

Tracking your every move. gordon@... | 02/14/05

Well with the Patriot Act and Laff | 02/14/05

I don't think this is a fair characterization tic swayback | 02/14/05

Can I get an AMEN for brother Tic!?! Laff | 02/14/05

Fair enough. gordon@... | 02/14/05

Homeland/Fartherland Security Dept is big Laff | 02/14/05

More than just war spending tic swayback | 02/14/05

well... jdahs@... | 02/15/05

Deine Papiere Bitte..... itanalyst | 02/14/05

Two points. First and perhaps most Laff | 02/14/05

dont jdahs@... | 02/15/05

This IS a national ID BitTwiddler | 02/14/05

Actually the Congress is where the laws are ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

no to george the first AnOldItGuy | 02/14/05

How is it... Why is it... kastro | 02/14/05

You might find this interesting but many of our Laff | 02/14/05

uh... jdahs@... | 02/15/05

Very simple answer: mass media Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

No mention on CNN gordon@... | 02/14/05

The mass media can be used in one of two Laff | 02/14/05

Don't you see? Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

actually... Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

Darn it! Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

Really ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Yeah and we all know that they follow those Laff | 02/15/05

Yeah? Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

Thank you Jimbo Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

RE: Jeff and Jim ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Shade the good criminals are the one we Laff | 02/15/05

Ummm Shadey.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

Rather's producer was fired and ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

my opinion on the matter... jdahs@... | 02/15/05

well jdahs@... | 02/15/05

Do a majority of Americans want this? tic swayback | 02/14/05

Based on other issues... kastro | 02/14/05

Based on other things... tic swayback | 02/14/05

The fact they SNEAK it in should tell you something. No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/14/05

Even a line item veto must be used by a wise Laff | 02/14/05

Exactly Axey Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

Line item veto won't help... Michael Kelly | 02/14/05

Obviously Linux User 147560 | 02/14/05

Where are we going with HR 418? osreinstall | 02/14/05

How did they sneak anything in? ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Hey Jeffreeeeeee Squawkbox | 02/14/05

It's just a cover story.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

NORAD was created to prevent ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Yes and their jets would be useless against Laff | 02/15/05

Precisely Jim Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

OK bright guy what do you think bringing down a jet ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Not to mention... rapson | 02/15/05

Apparently.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

Great arguement! ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Well Carl.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

Ironic voska | 02/15/05

Voska... rapson | 02/15/05

The carriers survived Pearl Harbor ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Yeah, real "unanticipated" there Shadey! Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

Come On Jeff ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Carl I would hope that Bush would have shot down Laff | 02/15/05

Obviously they could have easily... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Sorry Shadey, few things you're missing.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

Assumes facts not in evidence. ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Furthermore. ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Sure he can Shade! Spoon Jabber | 02/15/05

Squawk, two problems with that Spoon Jabber | 02/15/05

Ummm Spoon Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

No, actually you just made up some ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Well.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

I believe the 911 comission did hold the FBI ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Solutions to the problem... Laff | 02/15/05

Good suggestions, Laff (NT) rapson | 02/15/05

RE: Laff ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Shade the list of so called experts and profffesionals Laff | 02/15/05

I believe that the pro's are in a better position to ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Most so called professionals... voska | 02/15/05

You're aboslutely right Voska. ShadeTree | 02/15/05

There has been a long history where the pro's and experts Laff | 02/15/05

You are correct Shade..based on 9/11 the original Laff | 02/15/05

RE: Laff, part of the problem here... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Which is exactly what my plan addresses Laff | 02/15/05

Some good questions for you Jim.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

Laff, your plan has a hole big enough to drive an ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Then YOU wear the leash like some sorry animal, Shadey.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

Some better questions for you Jeff ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Hey Jeff ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Shade you made my point for me...they would Laff | 02/15/05

It would be much easier if the person... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

While my plan is not as of yet perfect....still Laff | 02/15/05

Once we have their DNA, their photo, their nationality Laff | 02/15/05

Do any of you know how to make a EMP generator? osreinstall | 02/15/05

RE: EMP generator? Squawkbox | 02/15/05

about fbi cia and stuff.. jdahs@... | 02/15/05

What's It Matter Anyway Squawk? itanalyst | 02/15/05

True, True Squawkbox | 02/15/05

there is always... jdahs@... | 02/15/05

Well seeing that I started this mess Squawkbox | 02/15/05

Excellent wrapup (NT) rapson | 02/15/05

100% agree..I have often called both republicans Laff | 02/15/05

If you think a national ID is scary ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Choice point is smothered in Powerpoint osreinstall | 02/15/05

Too much!!! lojak | 05/11/05

National ID Cards msricky13 | 05/11/05

National IDs,, BIG WAHOO ABOUT NOTHING justputt2@... | 05/11/05

making it hard on poeple born aboard momzgoingnuts | 05/13/05

ID cards.... kalypso_z | 05/18/05

The Real ID Act th3_br33z3 | 10/13/05

The Real ID Act:: National ID's th3_br33z3 | 10/13/05

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national ID cards vampred61 | 02/20/06

Work of the DEVIL si_si_05 | 03/16/06

Mark of the beast si_si_05 | 03/16/06

Kingdom of God is at hand si_si_05 | 03/16/06

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