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my direct marketing campaign: Put me on your opt-in list Tic. Anyone who posts on ZDnet has to be trustworthy. Of course I don't need anything now but maybe later. I will also include my Disneyland ID card cause this new card idea is definately Mickey Mouse and quite dangerous.; Posted by: Squawkbox Posted on: 02/14/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Hi Ya ParadigmOdyssey | 02/14/05

Blinker Laws ParadigmOdyssey | 02/14/05

This will supplement what is already there... htotten | 02/14/05

Truer words have never been spoken Roger Ramjet | 02/14/05

Re: SSN Not to be used for identification rwilson@... | 05/11/05

Ya gotta laugh Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

I think it's only fair people get the fascism they voted for. Atlant | 02/15/05

Would this be better than what we have today? jwschull@... | 02/14/05

Just another step on the slippery slope. Laff | 02/14/05

"Your papers, please ..." Judas I. | 02/14/05

Time for a tin foil wallet. Squawkbox | 02/14/05

Our government is becoming the worst terrorist bjbrock | 02/14/05

I support this 100% toomuchgreeatea@... | 02/14/05

Database access tic swayback | 02/14/05

my direct marketing campaign Squawkbox | 02/14/05

My friend, you just summarized the problem well... BitTwiddler | 02/14/05

Privacy concerns aside, what good will this do? tic swayback | 02/14/05

Stop using your head and just accept what you are told! No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/14/05

Truly the modern day Republican motto Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

Motives tic swayback | 02/14/05

wrong Tic Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

I'm trying to be charitable tic swayback | 02/14/05

I agree Tic that at least to start not everyone Laff | 02/14/05

The law of unintended consequences tic swayback | 02/14/05

So your saying... No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/14/05

"security theater" Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

Actually I do not demand that anything be done. Laff | 02/14/05

YOU have that choice Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

I only hope that I can continue to have that choice. Laff | 02/14/05

Those who believe in a Heaven and a Hell should know Laff | 02/14/05

Yeah Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

Oh, sorry Jeff, "I forgot you were there". Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

Actually if I get the right sense of Jeff and he has a Laff | 02/14/05

Thank you Jimbo! Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

If you'd seen the movie Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

Yes I did see the movie...Billy Bob Thorton was it not? Laff | 02/14/05

I can't recall the ahem actor's name but he's the annoying Laff | 02/14/05

Steven Segal? Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

You are correct about the girls!!! Laff | 02/14/05

Please explain how this helps tic swayback | 02/15/05

Explanation Spoon Jabber | 02/15/05

(}:-) osreinstall | 02/14/05

No discussion needed, just one simple answer is all tic swayback | 02/14/05

Forgot about tone of voice osreinstall | 02/14/05

I knew you were being sarcastic... tic swayback | 02/14/05

Wait a minute, this is my country. No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/14/05

Yer right, Axey! Judas I. | 02/14/05

YES you are!!! Laff | 02/14/05

Almost right... No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/14/05

heh heh heh...I love you AX!!! Laff | 02/14/05

Wow! Linux User 147560 | 02/14/05

10.0....I Can't Believe I'm 100% Behind You On This One itanalyst | 02/14/05

Problem is we are the minority Linux User 147560 | 02/14/05

Even sheep reble at some point... No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/15/05

Too late, it's the government's country now Ronny102 | 02/14/05

Mainstream Media Still Asleep At The Wheel (NT) Pinkerton | 02/14/05

No they know exactly what they are doing. Laff | 02/14/05

the mainstream media is not... jdahs@... | 02/15/05

No laughing matter bob@... | 02/14/05

Best thing ever hheite@... | 02/14/05

Iraq war a total failure Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

The jury is not in ... ShadeTree | 02/14/05

Think he's missing the democracy point voska | 02/14/05

Ummm Voska Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

But as long as IRAQ is occupied voska | 02/14/05

But doesn't that go against the spirit of democracy? Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

How could that happen? rapson | 02/14/05

What I believe.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

Good questions Carl...but my answer to them is Laff | 02/14/05

Numbers Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

A very distant third and forth. What will be interesting Laff | 02/14/05

I wonder how many... Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

Now that "IS" funny....:) Laff | 02/14/05

I'll tell you.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

LOL! Jeff Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

No logical REASON to NOT have a follow up paper trail Laff | 02/14/05

Laff, did I misunderstand? Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

Hey Laff Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

Apparently I DID misunderstand. Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

Sorry Spoon I thought Jeff was going back to Ohio Laff | 02/14/05

Poor Carl Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

I sort of like a good spanking.....:) Laff | 02/14/05

Yeah Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

What I find interesting rapson | 02/15/05

Yup Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

So when will that happen for you? Spoon Jabber | 02/15/05

OK..I will try to answer you point for point Laff | 02/15/05

You missed alot! Spoon Jabber | 02/15/05

And since this is the case (I trust you) then I Laff | 02/15/05

Counterpoints rapson | 02/15/05

Ah but..... Laff | 02/15/05

what you find interesting... jdahs@... | 02/15/05

Tracking your every move. gordon@... | 02/14/05

Well with the Patriot Act and Laff | 02/14/05

I don't think this is a fair characterization tic swayback | 02/14/05

Can I get an AMEN for brother Tic!?! Laff | 02/14/05

Fair enough. gordon@... | 02/14/05

Homeland/Fartherland Security Dept is big Laff | 02/14/05

More than just war spending tic swayback | 02/14/05

well... jdahs@... | 02/15/05

Deine Papiere Bitte..... itanalyst | 02/14/05

Two points. First and perhaps most Laff | 02/14/05

dont jdahs@... | 02/15/05

This IS a national ID BitTwiddler | 02/14/05

Actually the Congress is where the laws are ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

no to george the first AnOldItGuy | 02/14/05

How is it... Why is it... kastro | 02/14/05

You might find this interesting but many of our Laff | 02/14/05

uh... jdahs@... | 02/15/05

Very simple answer: mass media Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

No mention on CNN gordon@... | 02/14/05

The mass media can be used in one of two Laff | 02/14/05

Don't you see? Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

actually... Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

Darn it! Spoon Jabber | 02/14/05

Really ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Yeah and we all know that they follow those Laff | 02/15/05

Yeah? Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

Thank you Jimbo Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

RE: Jeff and Jim ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Shade the good criminals are the one we Laff | 02/15/05

Ummm Shadey.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

Rather's producer was fired and ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

my opinion on the matter... jdahs@... | 02/15/05

well jdahs@... | 02/15/05

Do a majority of Americans want this? tic swayback | 02/14/05

Based on other issues... kastro | 02/14/05

Based on other things... tic swayback | 02/14/05

The fact they SNEAK it in should tell you something. No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/14/05

Even a line item veto must be used by a wise Laff | 02/14/05

Exactly Axey Jeff Spicoli | 02/14/05

Line item veto won't help... Michael Kelly | 02/14/05

Obviously Linux User 147560 | 02/14/05

Where are we going with HR 418? osreinstall | 02/14/05

How did they sneak anything in? ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Hey Jeffreeeeeee Squawkbox | 02/14/05

It's just a cover story.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

NORAD was created to prevent ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Yes and their jets would be useless against Laff | 02/15/05

Precisely Jim Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

OK bright guy what do you think bringing down a jet ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Not to mention... rapson | 02/15/05

Apparently.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

Great arguement! ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Well Carl.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

Ironic voska | 02/15/05

Voska... rapson | 02/15/05

The carriers survived Pearl Harbor ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Yeah, real "unanticipated" there Shadey! Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

Come On Jeff ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Carl I would hope that Bush would have shot down Laff | 02/15/05

Obviously they could have easily... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Sorry Shadey, few things you're missing.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

Assumes facts not in evidence. ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Furthermore. ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Sure he can Shade! Spoon Jabber | 02/15/05

Squawk, two problems with that Spoon Jabber | 02/15/05

Ummm Spoon Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

No, actually you just made up some ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Well.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

I believe the 911 comission did hold the FBI ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Solutions to the problem... Laff | 02/15/05

Good suggestions, Laff (NT) rapson | 02/15/05

RE: Laff ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Shade the list of so called experts and profffesionals Laff | 02/15/05

I believe that the pro's are in a better position to ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Most so called professionals... voska | 02/15/05

You're aboslutely right Voska. ShadeTree | 02/15/05

There has been a long history where the pro's and experts Laff | 02/15/05

You are correct Shade..based on 9/11 the original Laff | 02/15/05

RE: Laff, part of the problem here... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Which is exactly what my plan addresses Laff | 02/15/05

Some good questions for you Jim.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

Laff, your plan has a hole big enough to drive an ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Then YOU wear the leash like some sorry animal, Shadey.. Jeff Spicoli | 02/15/05

Some better questions for you Jeff ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Hey Jeff ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Shade you made my point for me...they would Laff | 02/15/05

It would be much easier if the person... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

While my plan is not as of yet perfect....still Laff | 02/15/05

Once we have their DNA, their photo, their nationality Laff | 02/15/05

Do any of you know how to make a EMP generator? osreinstall | 02/15/05

RE: EMP generator? Squawkbox | 02/15/05

about fbi cia and stuff.. jdahs@... | 02/15/05

What's It Matter Anyway Squawk? itanalyst | 02/15/05

True, True Squawkbox | 02/15/05

there is always... jdahs@... | 02/15/05

Well seeing that I started this mess Squawkbox | 02/15/05

Excellent wrapup (NT) rapson | 02/15/05

100% agree..I have often called both republicans Laff | 02/15/05

If you think a national ID is scary ... ShadeTree | 02/15/05

Choice point is smothered in Powerpoint osreinstall | 02/15/05

Too much!!! lojak | 05/11/05

National ID Cards msricky13 | 05/11/05

National IDs,, BIG WAHOO ABOUT NOTHING justputt2@... | 05/11/05

making it hard on poeple born aboard momzgoingnuts | 05/13/05

ID cards.... kalypso_z | 05/18/05

The Real ID Act th3_br33z3 | 10/13/05

The Real ID Act:: National ID's th3_br33z3 | 10/13/05

Devil at work si_si_05 | 03/16/06

national ID cards vampred61 | 02/20/06

Work of the DEVIL si_si_05 | 03/16/06

Mark of the beast si_si_05 | 03/16/06

Kingdom of God is at hand si_si_05 | 03/16/06

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