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Our patent system is broken
I just think the PTO isn't sophisticated enough to understand what is really going on.
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Property List Editor  grscjo3 | 08/07/09
The US patent system is ridiculous  bmonsterman | 08/07/09
MS would patent breathing if they could get away with it.  fr0thy2 | 08/07/09
Sorry,  Erroneous | 08/07/09
I once lived there...  ShadowGIATL | 08/09/09
You act as though...  ShadowGIATL | 08/09/09
It's the nature of today's business....  cosuna | 08/10/09
RE: No one  zdnet@... | 08/11/09
Right, RCA was constantly in court...  sykandtyed | 08/10/09
But if you stop them...  ShadowGIATL | 08/11/09
But the Apple Corp....  kaninelupus | 08/10/09
Apple is a licensee of the word  cholzwarth | 08/10/09
Is iTunes in the music buisness?  mjolnar@... | 08/10/09
Technically no.  ShadowGIATL | 08/10/09
Patent for free utilisation?  JanEnEml | 08/11/09
It's simple enough...  GetReal-mac.com | 08/14/09
Maybe the patent office can't afford...  sykandtyed | 08/10/09
Actually...  fairportfan | 08/12/09
Re: MS would patent breathing  kblood@... | 08/10/09
What about the open source community?  satovey@... | 08/10/09
Re; My take is that they are cowards.  hkommedal | 08/10/09
Tell you what,  jimhood82 | 08/12/09
No one is saying that...  ShadowGIATL | 08/09/09
There are patents that don't make sense  cameigons | 08/10/09
Just because something exist in digital form...  ShadowGIATL | 08/10/09
You'll still end up in court...  sykandtyed | 08/10/09
That has been going on since the beginning.  ShadowGIATL | 08/11/09
Let's take a deep breath here...  RaulYbarra | 08/11/09
Thank you...  ShadowGIATL | 08/11/09
M$ helped break it  cholzwarth | 08/10/09
Re; wonder if they will be registering this one globally.  hkommedal | 08/11/09
Re. The US patent system is ridiculous.  Bilmekanikeren | 08/10/09
MS has to patent it  deepee912 | 08/11/09
No. This can not be a valid patent due to a huge amount of . .  hkommedal | 08/11/09
US patent system is ridiculous?  ZayasE | 08/13/09
Our patent system is broken  gtvr | 08/07/09
It works the way it was intended.  ShadowGIATL | 08/09/09
In what alternate dimension?  skepticat | 08/10/09
so it's a money waster?  Mitch 74 | 08/10/09
Careful what you ask for.  ShadowGIATL | 08/10/09
reading  tmsbrdrs | 08/10/09
Difference between theory and practice.  ShadowGIATL | 08/11/09
No, it doesn't  DeusExMachina | 08/10/09
Ok...  ShadowGIATL | 08/10/09
Because, again, that is not how the patent process works  DeusExMachina | 08/10/09
I doubt that is really their intentions here.  ShadowGIATL | 08/11/09
Re; Until the US becomes a socialist state . .  hkommedal | 08/10/09
You take words out of context.  ShadowGIATL | 08/10/09
Lawyers  satovey@... | 08/10/09
Bwahahaha!  Yagotta B. Kidding | 08/07/09
I wouldn't worry too much about this  Michael Kelly | 08/07/09
It would be nice to think so...  jackbond | 08/07/09
"I'm sure Microsoft filed this defensively"  fr0thy2 | 08/07/09
Do this...  jackbond | 08/07/09
Exactly  beoz | 08/07/09
What?!  kurtesmaximus | 08/10/09
open source nutjobs?  neverhome | 08/10/09
Right, take out the competiton.  mjolnar@... | 08/10/09
Destroy Open Source.  bigpicture | 08/10/09
prior art date  dabble53 | 08/10/09
Re; have to exist 1 year before the filing date, . .  hkommedal | 08/10/09
That all depends...  RaulYbarra | 08/11/09
the community should rise  Linux Geek | 08/07/09
Why?  Fark | 08/07/09
I wouldn't trust MS with this patent.  storm14k | 08/07/09
it could use it as a threat and FUD  Linux Geek | 08/07/09
Because while MS is smiling at you ...  fr0thy2 | 08/07/09
What?  SkaldedKat | 08/10/09
MS put will put it in it's cummunity license? We'll see, I doubt it.  MrRickle | 08/10/09
Has the patent system go through any overhaul/review  Boot_Agnostic | 08/07/09
MS also filed this patent:  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 08/07/09
This is a serious problem...and its not about MS.  storm14k | 08/07/09
Simple?  zdnet-gregc | 08/08/09
There are several memes  daengbo | 08/10/09
Even if it doesn't hold it in court  rarsa | 08/07/09
Yup. Time for the DOJ -- again...  HypnoToad72 | 08/07/09
Dinosaur droppings  whisperycat | 08/07/09
You missed the point  wolf_z | 08/07/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  Loverock Davidson | 08/07/09
How long is your attention span?  HypnoToad72 | 08/07/09
In this case, you're right  IT_User | 08/07/09
Worst case scenario and Microsoft go hand in hand.  fr0thy2 | 08/07/09
Well, yeah, it is...  corlandogcrta.org | 08/11/09
Apple is a Giant? With 9% of marketshare? Are you kidding???  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 08/11/09
Apple is a giant...  corlandogcrta.org | 08/11/09
Why spend money on a patent...  jasonp@... | 08/12/09
Or could it be...  KTLA | 08/07/09
Did you even read the patent?  zeeman13@... | 08/07/09
Can Openoffice.org sue?  HypnoToad72 | 08/07/09
Wrong wrong wrong  Gladiatorcn | 08/07/09
No. Sigh. It wasn't about patents or binaries.  wolf_z | 08/07/09
google docs  jeffk464 | 08/07/09
How can MS patent an open standard?  BitTwiddler | 08/07/09
They'd patent FOSS, Linux and freedom too ...  fr0thy2 | 08/07/09
Start your own comapny  e_ecruz | 08/07/09
It's what you do that's important ...  fr0thy2 | 08/07/09
YES!!!  Ole Man | 08/07/09
Funny thing is....  storm14k | 08/09/09
try feeding your family...  ShadowGIATL | 08/09/09
There is a bit of difference between the need of money and . .  hkommedal | 08/10/09
True...  ShadowGIATL | 08/10/09
Remember BeOS?  Henk de Boer | 08/10/09
Apple had nothing to do with killing BeOS. It was all Microsoft! (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 08/11/09
Own money?  SkaldedKat | 08/10/09
What are you suggesting?  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 08/11/09
So simple even a Windoze user can get it  Ole Man | 08/07/09
So simple even a Windoze user can get it  neverhome | 08/10/09
patenting a standard  zdnet-gregc | 08/09/09
Re; patenting a standard.  hkommedal | 08/10/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  jeffk464 | 08/07/09
And it won't be the last Cake Microsoft tries to take over!! (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 08/11/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  zeeman13@... | 08/07/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  jsjweb@... | 08/07/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  e_ecruz | 08/07/09
Please read the claims.  bob535 | 08/07/09
and suddenly ...  shis-ka-bob | 08/07/09
FYI  zkiwi | 08/07/09
Patents work - like it or not.  Aussie_Troll | 08/08/09
Your point is valid, but software patents for 20 years?  B.O.F.H. | 08/08/09
If software evolves so quickly...  corlandogcrta.org | 08/11/09
Do you remember EDI? XML will replace it.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 08/11/09
Moore's Law pertains to transistors, not software.  B.O.F.H. | 08/12/09
Well...  zkiwi | 08/08/09
Prove it.  CobraA1 | 08/09/09
here is some prove -  Ramgni | 08/10/09
Talk about articulating and spelling...  corlandogcrta.org | 08/11/09
Yeah, Aussie, how about MS creates something instead of stealing or buying?  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 08/11/09
I thought patents had to be unique(ish)  JonathanWilson | 08/08/09
Donald Knuth: Mathematical Ideas, or Algorithms, Should Not Be Patented  ­  | 08/08/09
I agree  Tony R. | 08/10/09
Current URL for LPF  RepliCounts | 08/11/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  Byterat | 08/08/09
The process  Aussie_Troll | 08/09/09
It was in use 5 years before.  hkommedal | 08/10/09
The Microsoft process - 1. Steal idea 2. Patent it  whisperycat | 08/09/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  The_Toxic_Mite | 08/09/09
The US patent system is the laughing stock of the world  whisperycat | 08/09/09
M$ is weeding out parasites!  privacy matters | 08/09/09
Suns "Star Office" and later "OpenOffice" had this in use  hkommedal | 08/10/09
Microsoft is protecting own market!  privacy matters | 08/09/09
and vice versa!  privacy matters | 08/09/09
Re; you won't be able to import MS documents!  hkommedal | 08/10/09
Three Options  joelsapp | 08/10/09
Careful you don't use "pageup/pagedown"  Ole Man | 08/10/09
Update, 11 August 2009  Ole Man | 08/11/09
Conspiracy theorist?  ShadowGIATL | 08/12/09
Microsoft now attempt to fragment ODF May 5th, 2009  Ole Man | 08/10/09
Out of curiousity...  ShadowGIATL | 08/10/09
My point of view should be obvious  Ole Man | 08/10/09
It is.  ShadowGIATL | 08/11/09
Just another corrupt government function  code_flogger | 08/10/09
So why didn't the inventors...  ShadowGIATL | 08/10/09
You're doing a great job.  ShadowGIATL | 08/11/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  jlang@... | 08/10/09
Can Patents be Appealed?  bearlyworking | 08/10/09
Yes. (nt)  ShadowGIATL | 08/10/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  dgpeter@... | 08/10/09
No other Choice  Richard B | 08/10/09
Excellent point actually.  ShadowGIATL | 08/10/09
Prior Art  cholzwarth | 08/10/09
I have seen many...  ShadowGIATL | 08/10/09
Who cares?  davidhayes | 08/10/09
Master Joe Says...  MasterJoe | 08/10/09
Misrepresentation! XML is a subset of SGML!  ioot@... | 08/10/09
This is a two part patent, and the other patent is more interesting  ioot@... | 08/10/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  ioot@... | 08/10/09
so M$ thinks they own XML now. they didn't invent XML or the word processor  wessonjoe | 08/10/09
SUE M$  myrealname | 08/10/09
Only if you have VERY deep pockets.  hkommedal | 08/10/09
Last I heard....  ShadowGIATL | 08/10/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  awasson@... | 08/10/09
Who invented TV?  misceng | 08/10/09
Didn't MS say their use of XML in 2007 suite was going to be 'open'  bruce88 | 08/10/09
what a bunch of lamers :Patent Office  ash_sids | 08/10/09
Open standards?  cburkitt2 | 08/10/09
standards versus open  Ramgni | 08/10/09
Microsoft is simply asserting their authority over their "customers"  Ole Man | 08/10/09
All companies lobby.  ShadowGIATL | 08/10/09
Point taken  Ole Man | 08/11/09
Well...  ShadowGIATL | 08/11/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  arash_r@... | 08/10/09
No. It is the other way around.  hkommedal | 08/10/09
Bad news for ODF?  chas_2 | 08/10/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  arwalden | 08/10/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  jean-v.cote@... | 08/10/09
What a joke  Don't Ask Me | 08/10/09
Software patents is killing software innovation in the US  WiredGuy | 08/10/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  pc_techs_ct@... | 08/10/09
Prior Art Anyone  tracy anne | 08/10/09
RE: No big deal ...  George Mitchell | 08/10/09
RE: No big deal ...  pc_techs_ct@... | 08/12/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  walkerjian@... | 08/10/09
Can't possibly cover something that was already invented  roncemer | 08/10/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  evil_corvine | 08/10/09
Re; governments are enforcning MS exclusive usage of that same format.  hkommedal | 08/10/09
This is terrible  chaz15 | 08/10/09
Microsoft...  rsn10100 | 08/10/09
It's you who missed something  daengbo | 08/10/09
No it's you who's missing the point  chaz15 | 08/11/09
I hope Sun can fight this  Li1t | 08/11/09
SGML Derivative  kyron.gustafson@... | 08/11/09
Every day it looks more like...  dbecker@... | 08/11/09
One wishes that Microsoft would invent  dbecker@... | 08/11/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  UngerJ | 08/11/09
Can you name a word processor?  kyron.gustafson@... | 08/11/09
AMIPRO...back in 1997! (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 08/11/09
RTF, DOC & WPD - No XML  kyron.gustafson@... | 08/12/09
Star Office  criderja | 08/12/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  hmoulding@... | 08/11/09
Crazy confluence of lawyers  lschw1 | 08/11/09
Two little words...  jasonp@... | 08/12/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  the.marauder | 08/12/09
FYI - MS lost the case  butthen | 08/12/09
RE: Microsoft patents XML word processing documents  JeremyBoden | 08/15/09
Yes, and then....  jdickey | 08/15/09
the patent will not be up held on appeal  JamesMason15 | 09/04/09

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