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re: There's too little detail to make any informed argument.
"But that hasn't stopped the ABMers from blaming Windows."

Blaming Windows?

If you remove Windows from this equation and plug something else in, problem solved, eh?

^o^

Posted by: n0neXn0ne   Posted on: 05/22/09  (Edited: 05/22/2009 @ 07:22) You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Not a Linux OS, then ...  whisperycat | 05/22/09
Could be any OS  NStalnecker | 05/22/09
And yet, you can bet money and be almost certain to win  frgough | 05/22/09
*ahem*  evilkillerwhale@... | 05/25/09
Probably those WinTel devices...  JCitizen | 06/01/09
Yeah, yer right...  readwryt@... | 05/27/09
Sorry, it's not so black and white.  AzuMao | 05/28/09
It's not a black and white situation, though.  AzuMao | 05/25/09
to clarify chances  dcdavy | 05/25/09
Macs are the easiest to hack, but market share may agree with your %'s.  invmgr@... | 06/01/09
Actually market share isn't the issue here.  AzuMao | 06/02/09
Infections Per Capita....  Timewellwasted | 06/13/09
Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse you.  AzuMao | 06/14/09
could be any OS  ator1940 | 05/25/09
Or perhaps no...  paulo.s.lima | 05/25/09
I doubt it was a virus.  ye | 05/22/09
Can you please explain ...  n0neXn0ne | 05/22/09
There's too little detail to make any informed argument.  ye | 05/22/09
re: There's too little detail to make any informed argument.  n0neXn0ne | 05/22/09
Not at all.  ye | 05/22/09
No specific evidence  Len Rooney | 05/22/09
@Len Rooney: Which is why I wrote:  ye | 05/22/09
remove computers  pupkin_z | 05/22/09
re: remove computers  n0neXn0ne | 05/22/09
Actually n0neXn0ne, the real problem is  John Zern | 05/22/09
@John Zern: While I agree with you the article you linked to is...  ye | 05/23/09
Face it  Len Rooney | 05/23/09
It has nothing to do with popularity or monoculture.  AzuMao | 05/25/09
It's started!  InAction Man | 05/22/09
Malware that results from social engineering  frgough | 05/22/09
I think it's reasonable to assume Windows.  ye | 05/22/09
Of course  Michael Kelly | 05/22/09
I agree.  ye | 05/22/09
1 simple step to securing Windows-  whisperycat | 05/22/09
@whisperycat: If only there were one.  ye | 05/22/09
4 simple steps to securing a Windows machine  InAction Man | 05/23/09
If even the FBI aren't cut out to be windows users  AzuMao | 05/25/09
I don't recall having ever said Windows is easier to use.  ye | 05/25/09
So we can say linux is not good enough then  Loverock Davidson | 05/22/09
Seems like a waste of time on coming to conclusions without the facts...  maskman01 | 05/22/09
Fail  AzuMao | 05/25/09
Your psychic powers...  RocketEater | 05/22/09
Why isn't every Windows machine infected?  whisperycat | 05/22/09
All great examples of vulnerabilities that were patched before...  ye | 05/22/09
Desperate attempt to evade the unpalatable truth  whisperycat | 05/22/09
I don't know what they're being attacked by.  ye | 05/22/09
An argument that has been settled at least a million times.  Timewellwasted | 05/25/09
Pick one then  AzuMao | 05/25/09
Or D  ye | 05/25/09
More like  AzuMao | 06/02/09
Do you mean that?  sporkfighter | 05/25/09
Yes, I do.  ye | 05/25/09
Dear ye...  914four | 05/25/09
May I make a quess?  pfyearwood | 05/25/09
Security best practices. Yes!  jerryz58 | 05/26/09
If it's not an MSFT issue  akulkis | 06/01/09
Good question!  jerryz58 | 06/03/09
If the operating system can't function securely without help from  AzuMao | 06/04/09
Then how did they hack the FBI's Linux servers?  GuidingLight | 05/22/09
Was that poor attempt at sarcasm? n/t  n0neXn0ne | 05/22/09
So stupid!  InAction Man | 05/23/09
Superior?  Troll Hunter | 05/23/09
The number of security holes created by the manufacturer.  kozmcrae | 05/23/09
How so?  ye | 05/23/09
How so?  kozmcrae | 05/23/09
Sorry, my mistake.  kozmcrae | 05/23/09
@kozmcrae: I ask for some crebile source. Not a circular reference...  ye | 05/25/09
You don't get it?  laboye | 05/25/09
@laboye: Yes, I do get it. He's attempting to make an argument based on...  ye | 05/25/09
Ya, you're SO right  AzuMao | 05/25/09
@Ye  laboye | 05/25/09
But the FBI uses Linux  GuidingLight | 05/22/09
Is that the only way of infection?  lordphantom | 05/22/09
Your pitiful attempts at humor no longer amuse anyone  InAction Man | 05/23/09
Fail...  AzuMao | 05/25/09
Not a Linux OS, then  bwchato | 05/22/09
No one believes that, starting with you!  InAction Man | 05/23/09
WOW!  Troll Hunter | 05/23/09
The first worm ever  AzuMao | 05/25/09
I disagree...  Jkirk3279 | 05/26/09
Could have been a targeted attack  Li1t | 05/25/09
Honest Question,...  Chalfont | 05/26/09
Ubuntu is as vulnerable as any other OS  alpyne2@... | 05/26/09
It is by design much more secure...  AzuMao | 05/27/09
BULL  Timewellwasted | 06/05/09
No  AzuMao | 06/06/09
INSANITY  Timewellwasted | 06/12/09
What "theory"?  AzuMao | 06/13/09
Fanboys??  Timewellwasted | 06/13/09
Well if you didn't directly say, you did heavily imply  AzuMao | 06/14/09
Basically,  AzuMao | 06/13/09
Orders of Magnitude?  Timewellwasted | 06/13/09
Meaning powers of ten.  AzuMao | 06/14/09
IT'S HILARIOUS  go_blue | 05/26/09
No...  Jkirk3279 | 05/26/09
No, they don't.  AzuMao | 05/27/09
Your view is too narrow.  go_blue | 05/27/09
Um?  AzuMao | 05/28/09
I notice many more games and attendant..  JCitizen | 06/07/09
I would switch completely and totally...  JCitizen | 06/01/09
Sometimes what's not said is more revealing than what is said.  kozmcrae | 05/22/09
The "W" word can't be used here....  joe.smetona@... | 05/27/09
Ye was right!  whisperycat | 05/22/09
If true the FBI's IT department is a joke.  ye | 05/22/09
They really SHOULD know better, they ARE a joke  InAction Man | 05/23/09
So far ye...  kozmcrae | 05/23/09
Pretty much.  ye | 05/23/09
Your patching business is incomplete.  kozmcrae | 05/23/09
That problem can be solved  AzuMao | 05/25/09
You cannot be that ignorant  honeymonster | 05/25/09
Looks like you're the ignorant one.  AzuMao | 05/27/09
From your own data honeymonster.  kozmcrae | 05/27/09
That doesn't happen with my Oracle databases.  ye | 05/25/09
Why is "not all of them" a problem? (NT)  kozmcrae | 05/26/09
Maybe, just maybe  AzuMao | 05/25/09
OK...then what might that be?  ye | 05/25/09
Perhaps the FBI's policies don't allow their IT departement...  914four | 05/25/09
Re: what might that be  AzuMao | 06/04/09
@yeeeee!  laboye | 05/25/09
My information comes from:  ye | 05/25/09
_  laboye | 05/25/09
The problem is a well know one  Len Rooney | 05/23/09
The patch in question is over six months old. How much time do they need?  ye | 05/23/09
So your "cunning plan" is to connect every FBI PC to the Internet?  Zogg | 05/23/09
Please refrain from commenting about things you're clueless about.  ye | 05/23/09
Then contact the FBI, Ye! Quickly!  Zogg | 05/24/09
@Zogg  honeymonster | 05/24/09
@honeymonster: Because he can't.  ye | 05/25/09
Calling the FBI "a joke" *is* worthy of ridicule.  Zogg | 05/26/09
Agreed  AzuMao | 05/25/09
entrapment  eshalon | 05/25/09
Is that so? The why do they run this site  GuidingLight | 05/22/09
You just discovered netcraft? n/t  n0neXn0ne | 05/22/09
Netcraft report  DevGuy_z | 05/22/09
Now tell us what exactly is/are the roles of those Linux servers?  InAction Man | 05/23/09
Duh  AzuMao | 05/25/09
Speculation  barence773 | 05/25/09
UNPLUG FROM NET!  MrViklund | 05/22/09
Chinese Flu  Alan Smithie | 05/23/09
Way to FAIL Windows XP  NStalnecker | 05/24/09
I'm surprised ye!  preachjohn | 05/24/09
Quote the Microsoft "insiders", please  honeymonster | 05/25/09
LOL! More FUD.  ye | 05/25/09
RE: Mysterious virus strikes FBI  IamLA5150@... | 05/25/09
People, people, people . . . get a life!  HiBeamR_z | 05/25/09
What are you doing here? ... get a life! n/t  n0neXn0ne | 05/25/09
No one's whining except you.  AzuMao | 05/25/09
Could be any OS  Aussie_Troll | 05/25/09
EAL4  914four | 05/25/09
RE: Mysterious virus strikes FBI  wds21921@... | 05/25/09
Hahahah  EmperorDarius | 05/25/09
RE: Hahahah  michael56555@... | 05/25/09
interesting links- what is the real issue?  pfyearwood | 05/25/09
Have you tried wine?  adelacuesta | 06/01/09
Did you get that from the Inquirer?...  JCitizen | 06/01/09
National Enquirer  Timewellwasted | 06/12/09
Thanks bad!  JCitizen | 06/13/09
More importantly, though,  AzuMao | 06/02/09
ZDNet Forums = Complaining about OS's  Dave_Friedel | 05/25/09
re: ZDNet Forums = Complaining about OS's  n0neXn0ne | 05/25/09
Seriously?  gigabot71 | 05/25/09
RE: Mysterious virus strikes FBI  BullDurham0001 | 05/25/09
why even attempt to report these things?  jhand47201 | 05/25/09
RE: Mysterious virus strikes FBI  chromeronin | 05/25/09
My OS is Better Then Your OS  mb96001@... | 05/25/09
No need to spell Microsoft funny.  kozmcrae | 05/31/09
And "gay" originally meant "happy".  AzuMao | 05/31/09
Just thought I would drop a couple of facts in here  RiggsFolly | 05/26/09
Great article!  Tech-tock | 05/26/09
All? The article doesn't mention Linux...NT..  joe.smetona@... | 05/27/09
Heheh...  readwryt@... | 05/27/09
Incomplete article  AzuMao | 05/27/09
Blame who?  dbisse@... | 05/26/09
Ok, I blame YOU...  readwryt@... | 05/27/09
Attention Mac OS X users ,watch for a mysterious virus  sroth@... | 05/26/09
Ya there are vulnerabilities in Java sometimes  AzuMao | 05/27/09
*eyeroll*  readwryt@... | 05/27/09
It doesn't make sense...  joe.smetona@... | 05/27/09
There is that nagging feeling...  JCitizen | 06/01/09
Simple  AzuMao | 06/02/09
Didn't you look at the link?...  JCitizen | 06/07/09
You don't operate as root. It's that simple.  AzuMao | 06/07/09
Yes but you got to put that password in...  JCitizen | 06/09/09
"Recently"?  AzuMao | 06/09/09
Wilco..Thanks!  JCitizen | 06/10/09
There's no argument.  AzuMao | 05/28/09
Yeah yeah... OS this OS that...  Jedimasterbc | 05/28/09
It hasn't been invented yet.  joe.smetona@... | 05/28/09
RE: Mysterious virus strikes FBI  adelacuesta | 06/01/09
Or maybe, just maybe..  AzuMao | 06/02/09
Windows bought a drive locker that...  JCitizen | 06/07/09
Which speak volumes about how useful it will be for  AzuMao | 06/07/09
For sure...(nt)  JCitizen | 06/09/09
Perhaps you are right?  jerryz58 | 06/03/09

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