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Depends on your definition of "Finished"
As a tech and consultant, I am so tired and frustrated dealing with software and/or its hardware that is so-called "Finished" even at the highest levels.

I expect a product to install properly and its basic, fundamental features (not all the bells and whistles) to WORK as advertized.

When I have to go to a vendor's website to download/install a patch or firmware update because the version that I'm installing was not even beta tested properly for the common, typical grouping of PCs that it was designed for, then I get thoroughly frustrated.

And, when I call for tech support, and the technician has to continually put me on hold because he/she doesn't have the proper training and experience by their wonderful management, or is over-stressed because management understaffs their tech support to keep costs down, then I just want to through the dam product away and start over at square one. Hopefully I can find another vendor that has something that remotely meets my client's "basic" requirements.

This situation is especially true with the major Wi-Fi vendors, whom I feel market products that are not "ready for prime time".

In hindsight, I have learned to first check with product reviews, especially from the actual users who took the role of being on the "bleeding" edge to obtain a product that they thought would meet even their basics needs.
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Man, so true, I have heard them all.  DonnieBoy | 09/02/04
And yet, none of them matter at all.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/02/04
Yes, other applications are hard to use and buggy, so no problem.  DonnieBoy | 09/02/04
The word is  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/02/04
Yes, you never have time to do it right, but you have time to do it again.  DonnieBoy | 09/03/04
Becuase...  michael@... | 09/03/04
Yes, the problem determining what is needed.  DonnieBoy | 09/04/04
i dunno about your customers...  ryusen | 09/02/04
Simply not true.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/02/04
What? You don't wanna bet?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/02/04
what... want to actually give me tiem to READ your message first...  ryusen | 09/03/04
One of the things he did NOT talk is design by committee.  DonnieBoy | 09/03/04
Politic management  seosamh_z | 09/04/04
try to make some sense here....  ryusen | 09/03/04
Perhaps his customers  balsover | 09/03/04
perhaps they are, but...  ryusen | 09/03/04
Good to see you finally agree.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/04
No need to accept this  jorwell | 09/03/04
Of course they all do . . .  markdoiron | 09/03/04
Thank you for agreeing...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/03/04
last time I checked  hipparchus2000 | 09/03/04
Sorry, you are wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/04
i never said perfect, check out what Andy Tannenbaum wrote(who's childish!)  hipparchus2000 | 09/07/04
impassioned human-ness  hipparchus2000 | 09/07/04
Sorry, I don't buy into it.  balsover | 09/03/04
Depends on your definition of "Finished"  JohnGoz | 09/03/04
Spot On!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/04
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in summary  hipparchus2000 | 09/03/04
You Forgot Deadly Excuse #8  itanalyst | 09/02/04
As a Microsoft MVP, why...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/02/04
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Why "No further replies to this post will be accepted."?  solprovider | 09/04/04
is this describing XP developers?  V Sanders | 09/04/04
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