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last time I checked
various bits of the Linux/FreeBSD/OpenBSD/NetBSD/OpenDarwin(OSX)/GNU and UNIX world (Solaris, SCO UNIX, AIX, etc) exhibit next to no feature creep.

Tools like grep, bash, sftp, ssh, busybox, tar, gzip, and so on are remarkably stable. I know instantly that the NoAx view of this is old and tired, however, the code is maintained, BUT, CRUCIALLY, in posix systems, other tools are added that build on the basic set of tools.

(for example, for compression, tar uses gzip, both can be split into command stub and library, a GUI compressed folder as on KDE can exec the command stubs as appropriate, or via the library).

The uber modularity of Unix-like systems is no accident at all. It was designed to be like that from the ground up.

All these tools feel finished to me, even though they are modified from time to time.

There are all kinds of reasons, like a spaceship going into space, and systems requiring FDA approval, why buggy, unfinished sofware is not possible (in certain circumstances).
Generally with mission critical systems, a very clear engineering objective is specified with Design Spec, Functional Spec, and the Test plans.
As importance of bug-free-ness increases, customers expect less functionality, more guaranteed, and for more money.
Code auditing is always an option, and then there is Z, to prove software works.

Clearly, it probably isn't worth investing the same level of effort in a minesweeper game that crashes 1 time in 100 the user uses it, however that would be unacceptable for the guidance system for the space shuttle.

Note, the OpenBSD kernel is audited, and is extremely secure and stable. So if you make an application using Unix-like technology, you can CHOOSE supportfor the ultra latest hardware like USB2, hotplug and so on, OR, CHOOSE ultra-reliability. (OpenBSD or QNX).

You don't have CHOICE with Windows, it's trying to wear two hats.

As usual, NoAX, you try to level all software to the same level. In essence your argument is "no software will ever be secure and bug free because of the drive for features".
I say RUBBISH minimise redundant features or architect through factoring to make the core code as simple as possible! (Don't charge by Line!).
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Man, so true, I have heard them all.  DonnieBoy | 09/02/04
And yet, none of them matter at all.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/02/04
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The word is  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/02/04
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last time I checked  hipparchus2000 | 09/03/04
Sorry, you are wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/04
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