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Sorry, I don't buy into it.
No project is ever finished, however that does not mean that it can't be properly managed.

I have been in companies where the sales force dictated how we managed projects and I have been in companies that have kept the sales people out of the decision making process. Occasionally business decisions force our hands but there is absolutely no reason why a project cannot be properly managed with the end result being a good quality on or at least close to on schedule. To say otherwise might be an indication that you could be part of the problem when you should be part of the solution.

Flashy features with no substance are usually seen for what they are by even the computer illiterate. Unstable applications that constantly crash impress no one.
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Man, so true, I have heard them all.  DonnieBoy | 09/02/04
And yet, none of them matter at all.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/02/04
Yes, other applications are hard to use and buggy, so no problem.  DonnieBoy | 09/02/04
The word is  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/02/04
Yes, you never have time to do it right, but you have time to do it again.  DonnieBoy | 09/03/04
Becuase...  michael@... | 09/03/04
Yes, the problem determining what is needed.  DonnieBoy | 09/04/04
i dunno about your customers...  ryusen | 09/02/04
Simply not true.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/02/04
What? You don't wanna bet?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/02/04
what... want to actually give me tiem to READ your message first...  ryusen | 09/03/04
One of the things he did NOT talk is design by committee.  DonnieBoy | 09/03/04
Politic management  seosamh_z | 09/04/04
try to make some sense here....  ryusen | 09/03/04
Perhaps his customers  balsover | 09/03/04
perhaps they are, but...  ryusen | 09/03/04
Good to see you finally agree.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/04
No need to accept this  jorwell | 09/03/04
Of course they all do . . .  markdoiron | 09/03/04
Thank you for agreeing...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/03/04
last time I checked  hipparchus2000 | 09/03/04
Sorry, you are wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/04
i never said perfect, check out what Andy Tannenbaum wrote(who's childish!)  hipparchus2000 | 09/07/04
impassioned human-ness  hipparchus2000 | 09/07/04
Sorry, I don't buy into it.  balsover | 09/03/04
Depends on your definition of "Finished"  JohnGoz | 09/03/04
Spot On!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/04
I agree with Ax  Roger Ramjet | 09/07/04
Seven deadly excuses for poor design  Loverock Davidson | 09/02/04
Seven Deadly Excuses for Good Design  Erik1234 | 09/02/04
in summary  hipparchus2000 | 09/03/04
You Forgot Deadly Excuse #8  itanalyst | 09/02/04
As a Microsoft MVP, why...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/02/04
MS MVP? I Think Not Mr. Clueless  itanalyst | 09/02/04
Really, you share an IP address then?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/02/04
Be careful how you answer that.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/02/04
how do you know his IP address are you Okhrana or something  hipparchus2000 | 09/03/04
maybe he is a zdadmin  V Sanders | 09/04/04
No Ax is a M$ troll!  sa_z | 09/08/04
just because someone like windows  V Sanders | 09/04/04
You typically need to support MS on at least the client end.  DonnieBoy | 09/03/04
Forget excuses. Hire great developers.  solprovider | 09/02/04
Good post.  Anton Philidor | 09/02/04
Wizards. Some criticism of browsers.  solprovider | 09/02/04
Knowing the user  Anton Philidor | 09/03/04
Installers. Menus.  solprovider | 09/03/04
Apassionata, Jando, next...  Anton Philidor | 09/03/04
More Installers, Menus.  solprovider | 09/04/04
Perception  SC-man | 09/03/04
Agreed.  Anton Philidor | 09/03/04
Menu locations on MSIE and wizards  hipparchus2000 | 09/03/04
Reading the users' minds  Anton Philidor | 09/02/04
Lack of Planning  ntale@... | 09/03/04
Did anybody at ZDNet read this article?  solprovider | 09/03/04
what??  ryusen | 09/03/04
They have a model.  Anton Philidor | 09/03/04
Agreed: ZDNet does not like Feedbackers.  solprovider | 09/03/04
Why "No further replies to this post will be accepted."?  solprovider | 09/04/04
is this describing XP developers?  V Sanders | 09/04/04
Maybe  seosamh_z | 09/04/04
ZDNET, READ THIS STORY, AND THEN LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS  Valis Keogh | 09/04/04
Shh Don't wake them up they might be listening.  kohuratahi | 09/04/04
Talk Back  fletcherMcK | 09/06/04
Misunderstanding of "Requirements"  rcauvin | 09/04/04
Newton / Palm BAD analogy  Roger Ramjet | 09/07/04
Do you know anything at all about business?  tamuhockey | 09/07/04
The problem with Harvey Bingham is that he's not your typical senior citize  walter.bender | 09/29/04

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