Finally the Truth
robert_wines@... | 11/17/03
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Honest Tony from Cross Point?
Bill Weisgerber | 11/17/03
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I wouldn't count on it Billy
GRindinAxTaRupy | 11/17/03
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You can take it to the bank
Bill Weisgerber | 11/17/03
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Yup
prime21 | 11/17/03
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That would tell the tale
Bill Weisgerber | 11/17/03
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What inner circle???
NemesisNL | 11/19/03
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did you notice...
ryusen | 11/17/03
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Poor, poor M$ shill
NoB$ | 11/17/03
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The choirboys weigh in!
Bill Weisgerber | 11/17/03
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Honestly Bill, what's your point?
Still Lynn | 11/17/03
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Wronghorn? yeah, real honest there.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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What does honesty have to do with it?...
GRindinAxTaRupy | 11/17/03
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In the authors case, absolutely nothing.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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If not true, then rebut it, bitty
NoB$ | 11/17/03
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just how
ryusen | 11/17/03
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Bitty is master of gullible
NoB$ | 11/17/03
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John Carroll had a better article...
dsentman@... | 11/17/03
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Destracting (sic) rhetoric?
Yen_z | 11/17/03
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Got any response to these? ...
dsentman@... | 11/17/03
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Response
Mack DaNife | 11/17/03
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Red Herring fallacy
frgough@... | 11/17/03
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Problems With BOTH Articles; It's Not Even Beta Yet!
AstroCreep_z | 11/18/03
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Because it was more "unbiased" or because it lacked any criticism?
GRindinAxTaRupy | 11/17/03
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JC -- better article -- LOL
NoB$ | 11/17/03
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re: John Carroll's article
Still Lynn | 11/17/03
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but he was wrong on at least one count ...
foobar_z | 11/17/03
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Good Points, But Still Biased
AstroCreep_z | 11/18/03
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great article
screaming silence | 11/17/03
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A very biased position
truthteller_z | 11/17/03
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Shooting the messenger
tic swayback | 11/17/03
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Oh Really?
Mack DaNife | 11/17/03
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Yes, but he describes perfectly past experience with MS
DonnieBoy | 11/17/03
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An independent occupation?
Still Lynn | 11/17/03
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Very objective
digimania | 11/17/03
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Objective? I have some swamp ground for you.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Did you read my blog?
digimania | 11/17/03
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No. blogs are silly.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Maybe you should read this one.
vdraken | 11/17/03
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Thats interesting
digimania | 11/17/03
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Never seen one I'd waste time on.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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That's a shame
tic swayback | 11/17/03
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re: blog?
Still Lynn | 11/17/03
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Link
digimania | 12/23/03
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The fact that this article...
vdraken | 11/17/03
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For the record..
vdraken | 11/17/03
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Headlines
ryusen | 11/17/03
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"Wronghorn" in the title
agramont@... | 11/17/03
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Some cheese with that whine...?
erkjak@... | 11/17/03
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AMEN!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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make a choice and go about your business
Still Lynn | 11/17/03
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nice twist of words
lmaxwell | 11/27/03
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so...
ryusen | 11/17/03
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so, just follow these simple[ton's] rules ...
Still Lynn | 11/17/03
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ahem
ryusen | 11/18/03
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Perhaps Longhorn?
IT_User | 11/17/03
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Some cheese with that whine...?
bhodges_z | 11/17/03
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lack of due diligence
ralf_z | 11/17/03
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Another useless opinion from a non-tester.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Ad hominem and navel gazing
Robert Crocker | 11/17/03
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The hype machine rolls from both sides
tic swayback | 11/17/03
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Not quite.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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more detail
ryusen | 11/17/03
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Thanks for proving my point.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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a admit that
ryusen | 11/17/03
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Let me help you, look down.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Back up your assertions, please
tic swayback | 11/17/03
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See my post, 5 points fully debunked.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Needs work
tic swayback | 11/17/03
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Sorry, NDA in place.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Then why is it 3 years away?
tic swayback | 11/17/03
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Longhorn IS exactly vaporware
chemist109 | 11/17/03
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This is not journalism...
OpinionsAreLike | 11/17/03
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This is not journalism...
dsentman@... | 11/17/03
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of course it's not...
ryusen | 11/17/03
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ZDNet must be VERY hard up...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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You dont say....
Nullifidian | 11/17/03
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ZDNet's own review
digimania | 11/17/03
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We're all a little dumber now...
rthorat@... | 11/17/03
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Newbie to MS Lic.
Nullifidian | 11/17/03
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Not a newbie
rthorat@... | 11/17/03
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Suite or components, which is it?
Still Lynn | 11/17/03
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Everything is a problem.
tero_t_vaananen@... | 11/17/03
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Good points
rthorat@... | 11/17/03
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Good job!
d_jedi | 11/17/03
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So much for "Zdnet's out to defame Apple, OSS, etc, but not MS" stuff
FilledOut | 11/17/03
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But it will produce Talkback hits
FilledOut | 11/17/03
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And a little truth for a change instead of M$ advertising
GRindinAxTaRupy | 11/17/03
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Whatever you say Lewis
FilledOut | 11/17/03
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Lewis, welcome back.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Ulterior motives
tic swayback | 11/17/03
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Notice how NO ONE is discrediting the "myths"?
GRindinAxTaRupy | 11/17/03
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read this one...
digimania | 11/17/03
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Because there is no 'facts' to discredit.
vdraken | 11/17/03
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Disprove?.....
dsentman@... | 11/17/03
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The logic of myth
Still Lynn | 11/17/03
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Alice in Wonderland rhetoric is apt...
dsentman@... | 11/18/03
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No points to discredit.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Here
Ardian Daka | 11/17/03
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More sugar, a dash of bitters, same kool-aid
Still Lynn | 11/18/03
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How pointless, misleaded, piece of FUD
sebastien.lambla | 11/17/03
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Can you debunk it with FACTS???
GRindinAxTaRupy | 11/17/03
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There are no facts to debunk.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Article was great
NoB$ | 11/17/03
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Thanks
sebastien.lambla | 11/18/03
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Anti-Microsofters must be desperate
Anton Philidor | 11/17/03
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Because MS is going to leave them in the dust.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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What comes around goes around...........
Jose Jimenez | 11/17/03
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My only point is...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Following your own words I see...
GRindinAxTaRupy | 11/17/03
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Making it simple, just for you.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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More M$ shill FUD --Still no facts.
NoB$ | 11/17/03
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Just Keep Shooting The Bull
ParadigmOdyssey | 11/17/03
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5 points fully 'debunked'...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Total bunk
Robert Crocker | 11/17/03
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Yes, every thing the author said was bunk.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Just for you Robert.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Still think it's 'bunk' Robert?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Why do you ask something of others that you can't even do yourself?
GRindinAxTaRupy | 11/17/03
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Cute rant, anything to do with the article?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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We should always trust the "results" of a site called got dot net
GRindinAxTaRupy | 11/17/03
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Aw, can't do it yourself? Poor little fellow.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Never said I was trying to do anything
GRindinAxTaRupy | 11/17/03
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Um, you can read your own posts can't you?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Maybe you should do more reading
berck | 11/17/03
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Bitty, get real
NoB$ | 11/18/03
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Oh No!!! Net PETSHOP!!!
Robert Crocker | 11/18/03
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The Commentator is part of the problem
Anton Philidor | 11/17/03
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Yup, you got it.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Not just open source fanatics
voska | 11/17/03
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Ah, I want a perfect world too.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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A perfect world would be nice.
voska | 11/18/03
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On another note
voska | 11/17/03
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RE: Yup, you got it.
Iain_Peters | 11/17/03
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Sorry, you are dead wrong.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/03
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yeah.. right....
Iain_Peters | 11/18/03
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I hate only one thing: agreement....
John Le'Brecage | 11/17/03
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He couldn't John.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Oh, he could. He just didn't.
John Le'Brecage | 11/17/03
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Facts but no logic??
Anton Philidor | 11/17/03
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Your best post ever!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Anton...
John Le'Brecage | 11/18/03
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bitty, bitty, bitty
NoB$ | 11/18/03
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Billy G. is the problem
bhodges_z | 11/17/03
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So insightful and well articulated.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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No BGates, I mean No_Ax_to_Grind
bhodges_z | 11/17/03
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Ooo, I'm wonded to the quick. Not!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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comments
tic swayback | 11/17/03
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Think it through, then write
Anton Philidor | 11/17/03
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Excellent post, great points!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Bit And Anton sitting in a tree...
MacCanuck | 11/19/03
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Thought it through already
tic swayback | 11/17/03
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Okay, then take it to the logical conclusion
Anton Philidor | 11/17/03
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Hard to conclude anything yet
tic swayback | 11/17/03
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Programming at its best - NOT
Iain_Peters | 11/17/03
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Sorry, your sights are way off and you missed.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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Perhaps I wasn't clear
tic swayback | 11/17/03
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Close but not quite.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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John who?
tic swayback | 11/17/03
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I believe...
John Le'Brecage | 11/18/03
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Slap me silly and call me Sue. My bad!!!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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No_Ax_to_Grind, get an ax!
B.O.F.H. | 11/17/03
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more comments...
ryusen | 11/17/03
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Who are you to debunk anything?
Chad_z | 11/17/03
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Not even close, bitty
NoB$ | 11/18/03
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Myths are irrelevant
moiety | 11/17/03
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An iteresting statement..
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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your uninteresting statement
moiety | 11/17/03
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Folks? Who are they?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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They are the 98 users
voska | 11/17/03
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Given that when 98 came out...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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But get this
voska | 11/18/03
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To borrow a line from Buckaroo Banzi...
Chad_z | 11/17/03
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Bucharoo Bonzi? Oh yeah, a fictional tale.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/03
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It's Orcas, not "Oracas," Whidbey not "Widby," etc.
DSH86 | 11/17/03
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Yup, a well informed author. NOT!!!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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I noticed that too...
John Le'Brecage | 11/17/03
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its all about the money
dlyne | 11/17/03
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No Comment
John Carroll | 11/17/03
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Yes, my reaction too...
John Le'Brecage | 11/17/03
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ROFL
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/03
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but...
ryusen | 11/17/03
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Re: No Comment
Enton Eller | 11/17/03
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Looking forward to your article, ...
dsentman@... | 11/17/03
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Good
NoB$ | 11/18/03
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Badly researched
DaveArkley | 11/17/03
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Must be the opensource copycat
lmaxwell | 11/17/03
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Origin of "Wronghorn" ...
dsentman@... | 11/17/03
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Unprofessional Journalism
sunilrkarkera@... | 11/17/03
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I pity...
John Le'Brecage | 11/18/03
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There are so many wrong statements in the article...
EdgarSanchez_z | 11/17/03
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I had to go through the trouble of registering...
dsentman@... | 11/17/03
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Bias
kevin.weir | 11/17/03
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Criminy, give me a break
nemy | 11/17/03
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If you can't stand the heat...
rmsteele | 11/18/03
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Message has been deleted.
Chad_z | 11/18/03
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Somethings are in the future, like the next consoles
FilledOut | 11/18/03
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The sad american fact..
pochinator | 11/18/03
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Despite bias and typos
VMPhil | 11/22/03
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