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I agree that it is a scary situation, but that is exactly what is taking place today, as I type this. It is naive to think otherwise. As such, I do not expect to have any privacy with any type of electronic communication, be it email, telephone, cell phone, internet access, etc. I don't think the governemnt is spying on everyone, but it is naive to think that it would be impossible for them to spy on you without a warrant or your knowledge.

The patriot act really doesn't change anything about the way security is conducted in the U.S., it really only has an impact in regard to the legal system in that it makes admissable, many pieces of evidence that would otherwise be inadmissable sans the patriot act. The FBI and the NSA have always had the authority to search your home (with a warrant) in secret without telling you about it at all until after the fact.

In regard to the sharing of data, it wasn't permitted prior to the act, and is still not permitted in conditions of searches/wiretaps w/o warrants. If they have a warrant, they are free to share the data, but if they are conducting a search or taps w/o a warrant, they are barred from any type of disclosure outside of their own agency, and the patriot act did not change that. I guess it is their "check and balance" (albeit a week one).
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Contrary to the doomsday hype...  realitycheck101 | 08/09/04
Excellent Post Comrade!  chemist109 | 08/09/04
No freedom from search  frgough@... | 08/09/04
And everything you stated is a good thing because?  Laff | 08/09/04
Whoa, that's scary....  el1jones | 08/09/04
Without a legal process....The government can  Laff | 08/09/04
And I quote directly from the article  el1jones | 08/09/04
Unwarranted search allowed now  AbsolutelyNot | 08/09/04
About 1/2 right  bchesmer | 08/09/04
Agree to a point  tamuhockey | 08/09/04
I think I can debate the privacy statement.  el1jones | 08/09/04
not exactly  tamuhockey | 08/09/04
The Patriot Act changes some of that...  el1jones | 08/09/04
Agreed  tamuhockey | 08/09/04
Just because something can be done..or is being  Laff | 08/09/04
Ummm. not entirely true  bchesmer | 08/09/04
correct you are, but they can still monitor  tamuhockey | 08/09/04
Okay then, Mr. KGB sympathizer  el1jones | 08/09/04
What freedom?  frgough@... | 08/09/04
I myself like freedom, and don't trust those in power  Laff | 08/09/04
but...BIG BROTHER IS YOUR FRIEND  V Sanders | 08/09/04
Surprise. We're not talking just about this regulation.  el1jones | 08/09/04
Normally I don't respond to you  Linux User 147560 | 08/09/04
I applaud you  el1jones | 08/09/04
Exactly...  Tim Patterson | 08/09/04
Old Nazi era saying goes something like this...  Laff | 08/09/04
Great quote, but wrong interpretation  Anton Philidor | 08/09/04
I understand the quote to have several meanings  Laff | 08/09/04
A direct response...  Anton Philidor | 08/09/04
What "freedom" are you talking about?  avilensk1966@... | 08/09/04
And on the other side of this coin...  Laff | 08/09/04
Right...  avilensk1966@... | 08/09/04
I'm on the fense about Moore..Never seen any of  Laff | 08/09/04
Honestly?  AbsolutelyNot | 08/09/04
Thanks for the clarification  seosamh_z | 08/09/04
Never claimed to be a liberal...If you must label so  Laff | 08/10/04
Beg your pardon  seosamh_z | 08/10/04
I don't care if people choose to excersise their  Laff | 08/09/04
I have to disagree  avilensk1966@... | 08/09/04
But is it hurting  voska | 08/09/04
Acctually Chrisitan fanatic believe that IF you do  Laff | 08/09/04
Who's the fanatic?  seosamh_z | 08/09/04
But that is when the LAW comes in...Freedom is  Laff | 08/09/04
I'm sure comrade Stalin...  bjbrock | 08/09/04
Right vs. Wrong  vferrara | 08/09/04
History Lesson  OhMyGosh | 08/09/04
Lesson in History  Anton Philidor | 08/09/04
DUDE!!! Is this a hobby or do you do this for a  Laff | 08/09/04
Bravo!  rapson | 08/09/04
I agree...Nobody would have time to do anything else:)  Laff | 08/09/04
I didn't author the text quoted...  Anton Philidor | 08/09/04
You took the time...  rapson | 08/09/04
Also confused with  AbsolutelyNot | 08/09/04
Im Confused With  ParadigmOdyssey | 08/09/04
The US has improved greatly.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/09/04
Maybe..and maybe they have tacken these lessons  Laff | 08/09/04
Ah the fatalists  Linux User 147560 | 08/09/04
No Flaws in Oraganized Religion  voska | 08/09/04
Question  seosamh_z | 08/09/04
Answer  AbsolutelyNot | 08/09/04
I greatly admire our founding farthers/mothers  Laff | 08/10/04
Free as in somebody else pays  seosamh_z | 08/10/04
Maybe  seosamh_z | 08/09/04
How very LIBERAL of you joe...hee hee hee  Laff | 08/10/04
How sweet  seosamh_z | 08/10/04
"Fahrenheit FBI"?  rapson | 08/09/04
Abuse via Police isn't the Question  ParadigmOdyssey | 08/09/04
the problem is the ability to tap WITHOUT a warrent  V Sanders | 08/09/04
The good news  V Sanders | 08/09/04
Yet Another Administrative Agency Run Amok  Dave E._z | 08/11/04

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