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OOXML is a horrific mess, with a massive spec. cobbled together in a hurry, that simply documents the mess that is a binary format patched and repatched over the years dumped to XML

It is not a good format, it is not a good start to a new format, it is simply a bad format badly documented and it is unlikely to ever be correctly implemented by anyone else but Mircosoft (and even they will change the spec in the next version of office and so will not match the standard....)

ODF is not (yet) a good standard either but it is a good basis for a new format, it is young and was started correctly as a new format designed to be flexible, extendable, and easy to implement, and is already (partly) implemented by several independent packages

(Note XHTML/CSS is a standard and no-one implements this correctly yet but it is still a good standard ...)

If the Open Source community produced a format like OOXML then yes the community would be up in arms if someone tried to get it implemented as a standard, because it is horrible....not who it was designed by ...

The biggest problem people had with the process was the fact that it was fast-tracked even though there was only one implementation of it in existence (and the *apparent* strong arm tactics by Micosoft)
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Or else ... ?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 04/15/08
Perhaps they'd have done better to...  zkiwi | 04/15/08
They've got their new MS paid for mansions to protect  fr0thy2 | 04/16/08
LOL - damn keep it coming man your silly/funny - how's Mum...  socialism=nowhere | 04/16/08
Speaking of personal attacks!  Ole Man | 04/16/08
But he can't hold a candle to your  xuniL_z | 04/17/08
You couldn't be more wrong  Ole Man | 05/08/08
Whoa.  xuniL_z | 04/17/08
Re: without "naming names" on who is attacking them personally  hkommedal | 04/16/08
Erm?  zkiwi | 04/17/08
Erm.....correction..  xuniL_z | 04/17/08
At least...  zkiwi | 04/17/08
This.....  xuniL_z | 04/18/08
ISO is irrelevant today.  kraterz | 04/15/08
ISO Approval Sought for PHB's, not Techs  dumptux | 04/16/08
Funny the difference a point of view makes.  xuniL_z | 04/17/08
Is that why.....  xuniL_z | 04/17/08
Oh yeah! Out with the MKS system. In with your calibrated left foot.  Irritated_User | 04/21/08
Well, the attacks will continue, but, it is not personal, it is just that  DonnieBoy | 04/15/08
Yup, backwards people with no vision  fr0thy2 | 04/16/08
Well first he produced you...yep that's backwards...  socialism=nowhere | 04/16/08
Watch out for those ankle-biters  Ole Man | 04/16/08
bliney! a good one  vilppuu@... | 04/17/08
Also, the attacks WILL be directed at those that are trying to pretend  DonnieBoy | 04/15/08
On the other hand Donnie.  xuniL_z | 04/18/08
Open Source 'fanatics'  CreepinJesus | 04/16/08
Open Source....  JasterMereel | 04/16/08
Foamy will throw a tantrum you said a negative about ODF  socialism=nowhere | 04/16/08
Is "Foamy" what you call your Mum when she can't hear you ? (nt)  hkommedal | 04/16/08
@Jesus Creep  fr0thy2 | 04/16/08
I'm beginning to wonder who is really blind with that pile you just laid  socialism=nowhere | 04/16/08
I think it is time your Mum had a word with YOU.  hkommedal | 04/16/08
Now, now - that's too much reality for foamy to handle...  socialism=nowhere | 04/16/08
Given your blog-name, is it not time you had a LOOK at  hkommedal | 04/16/08
OOXML is very bad, ODF is pretty good  stevey_d | 04/18/08
No, not really! D?j? vu, it's Betamax all over again.  Irritated_User | 04/21/08
this is the rebelion of the people  Linux Geek | 04/16/08
um even if the OpenDocument Foundation thinks itself it sucks?  JABBER_WOLF | 04/16/08
So now it's a ISO Standard, but  LittleGuy | 04/16/08
Boo hoo, the whole world will stop spinning  fr0thy2 | 04/16/08
LOL - funny little boy - Dude your karma...remember you r karma  socialism=nowhere | 04/16/08
Didn't your Mum just call you for dinner ? (nt)  hkommedal | 04/16/08
RE: ISO calls for end to Open XML 'personal attacks'  john_van_v | 04/16/08
RE: ISO calls for end to Open XML 'personal attacks'  john_van_v | 04/16/08
Correct: HTML 5 or 6 should kill the need for most javascript  pcguy777 | 04/16/08
RE: ISO calls for end to Open XML 'personal attacks'  Uncle Caleb | 04/16/08
That is exactly what they are doing  Ole Man | 04/16/08
it's particularily funny because many refuse info on committee makeup  stevey_d | 04/18/08
Picture Monty Python - Protesters - it didn't say how many...  socialism=nowhere | 04/16/08
Not quite. Please get some reality one day. (nt)  hkommedal | 04/16/08
Actually...  CreepinJesus | 04/17/08
You are NOT so good at guessing, it seems. (nt)  hkommedal | 04/17/08
ODF SUCKS !!! EVEN THE CREATORS THINK SO !  JABBER_WOLF | 04/16/08
Re: ODF SUCKS !!! EVEN THE CREATORS THINK SO !  hkommedal | 04/16/08
But please don't ever confuse the .....  xuniL_z | 04/17/08
Still verbose...  ego.sum.stig@... | 04/18/08
How convenient......  xuniL_z | 04/22/08
However, you were verbose, and factually incorrect  ego.sum.stig@... | 04/23/08
If anybody ever has any dirty hogs  Ole Man | 04/16/08
He is only dreaming, so it will be a bit difficult to show any  hkommedal | 04/17/08
Hmmm, delusions abound...  zkiwi | 04/17/08
they sure do.  xuniL_z | 04/18/08
On coherent thought  zkiwi | 04/18/08
OpenDocument Foundation has nothing (& never had anything) to do with ODF  stevey_d | 04/18/08
RE: ISO calls for end to Open XML 'personal attacks'  thejynxed@... | 04/16/08
what more could we expect of these times?  stevey_d | 04/18/08
The Disharmony of OOXML  Ole Man | 04/16/08
It is certainly against ISO-standards. ISO is mainly  hkommedal | 04/17/08
The _height_ of disharmony.  vilppuu@... | 04/17/08
The_creation_of disharmony  Ole Man | 04/17/08
If you cannot trace money, then you cannot trust politicians ! (nt)  hkommedal | 04/17/08
The disharmony started precisely the moment  xuniL_z | 04/18/08
I actually have liked a number of Microsoft products  stevey_d | 04/18/08
And there lies the dilema  xuniL_z | 04/21/08
Praise be to Heaven!  Ole Man | 05/08/08
Respect?  Beechcraft | 04/18/08
Since people feel they have a right to protest  Boot_Agnostic | 04/22/08
RE: ISO calls for end to Open XML 'personal attacks'  cjcoats | 05/12/08

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