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Ok, as you asked.
The PC OEMs are in the best position of knowing what it takes to meet their customers needs. Most of the top OEMs offer alternative OSs (Linux) on a variety of PCs but the vast majority of users don't want it. Face it, anyone that actually wants an alternative knows how to buy what they want.

Second, it is not up to any governing body to disreagard the consumers wishes and there is no doubt the end user wants Windows installed and ready to go when they buy a new PC. (The version of XP without Media Player was SOUNDLY REJECTED by the buying public in the EU. It simply is NOT what they want.)

Third, it is not illegal to have a monopoly position, even in Europe. Only abuse of the monopoly is illegal. From all I read in the PDF the goal seems to be to reduce Microsoft's market share regardless of what users want and vote for with their wallets. You may make an argument users don't know any better but that is false as the report talks about servers and people running a server are not Joe Average and are very aware of their options.

Forth, the Average user would not know how to set up the OS AND all the required device drivers nor would the machine be tested to support their OS of choice. (OEMs test the hardware/OS combination extensively and all support is based upon that testing. That is why they include a recovery disk with the PC.)

Finally, this market (any market) is best served by the market forces (assuming no abuse from a monopoly) and user demands. If HP, or Dell, or anyone thought there was money to be made by building stripped down boxes they would jump on it in a heartbeat. The fact is, there is no market demand for such a configuration. (There are companies doing it and their sales are barely percievable.) Again, the government of the EU can and should end any abusive tactics of a monopoly, but that is a far cry from doing everything they can to destroy the company or its position in the market.
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Is he implying that taking the obviously right  Dr-T | 09/26/07
You'll save next to nothing.  notsofast | 09/26/07
Think tank? More like drunk tank  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/26/07
Hey!  Linux User 147560 | 09/26/07
So here are all but one of the posts that WERE under this one...  Linux User 147560 | 09/27/07
How about supporting that?  voska | 09/26/07
I'll give it a go...  wolf_z | 09/26/07
That's a lot of assertions  zkiwi | 09/26/07
You don't get it...  wolf_z | 09/26/07
This is all moot.  xuniL_z | 09/26/07
I agree with you 100 percent  diriambino@... | 10/01/07
What's all this stuff  IT_User | 09/26/07
It's not just gamers.  xuniL_z | 09/27/07
I'd say much the same about you  zkiwi | 09/26/07
wolf_z  xuniL_z | 09/27/07
Wake up  micks_tricks | 03/20/08
Here's what will happen though  voska | 09/26/07
Ok, as you asked.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/26/07
One more to consider.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/26/07
Interesting you meantion the car problem  voska | 09/26/07
stripped?  merc2dogs` | 09/26/07
Do you need a list of OEMs?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/26/07
Sure post them  voska | 09/26/07
k  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/26/07
re: k  Badgered | 09/27/07
But we are talking about Europe!  Zogg | 09/27/07
RE: Bring on naked PCs  Badgered | 09/26/07
What was NOT said.  Sagax- | 09/27/07
It's about time  srobtjones@... | 09/26/07
Way too much thinking going on there...  IT_Guy_z | 09/26/07
Seems like a good idea to me  voska | 09/26/07
That would kill linux on the desktop.  xuniL_z | 09/26/07
You already pay to have it installed  voska | 09/26/07
I doubt it will kill Linux on the desktop  Linux User 147560 | 09/26/07
Well, that may be the "government's" wishes  xuniL_z | 09/26/07
xuniL_z, you love red herrings!  nomoremicrosoft | 09/26/07
Of course they have to exclude Apple  PB_z | 09/26/07
Agreed  Flubnut | 09/26/07
What was he running?  itpro_z | 09/26/07
Definition of Monopoly  voska | 09/26/07
And there is the problem, there is no deffinition  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/26/07
Exactly  NonZealot | 09/26/07
NonZealot posts some profounding relies, no? Snicker, smirk, snort (NT)  nomoremicrosoft | 09/26/07
Weel, he posts more than a header like you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/26/07
Unless you want to call his Sniker retorts childish then I win! (NT)  nomoremicrosoft | 09/26/07
Competition  voska | 09/26/07
They most certainly do compete  NonZealot | 09/26/07
Ah but you are mistaken  voska | 09/26/07
I'm using logic, you are being disingenuous  NonZealot | 09/26/07
Excuse me but if what you say is true  xuniL_z | 09/26/07
Exactly like the US DoJ excluded Apple  xuniL_z | 09/26/07
Most people  zkiwi | 09/27/07
Most honest people  xuniL_z | 09/27/07
Aquiescing?  John L. Ries | 09/27/07
I was speaking about after  xuniL_z | 09/27/07
Reign of terror and murder?  John L. Ries | 09/27/07
You calling him unfit  zkiwi | 09/27/07
This is my point.  xuniL_z | 09/28/07
correction to text.  xuniL_z | 09/28/07
If they are indeed a prominant organization ...  George Mitchell | 09/26/07
Go with the flow?  John L. Ries | 09/26/07
In terms of being realistic, yes ...  George Mitchell | 09/26/07
I'll agree with that  John L. Ries | 09/27/07
Man they must hate the free market.....  JoeMama_z | 09/26/07
No, they just hate...  itpro_z | 09/26/07
To bad, thats what their citizens choose.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/26/07
Use Windows? No. Buy Windows? Yes.  Zogg | 09/27/07
Re: Use Windows? No. Buy Windows? Yes.  kurio99 | 09/27/07
I was at Futureshop recently  NonZealot | 09/27/07
What have Macs got to do with this?  Zogg | 09/27/07
Being dominated by US companies is not against the law...  JoeMama_z | 09/26/07
re: No, they just hate...  johnay | 09/27/07
I think it should be an option  John L. Ries | 09/26/07
How come you can report correctly and George Ou can't?  nomoremicrosoft | 09/26/07
HAHAHA!!! How will the Apple zealots apologize for this?  NonZealot | 09/26/07
Would disrupt Apple's business model  John L. Ries | 09/26/07
makes sense though  voska | 09/26/07
Care to explain the Mac vs Vista ads then?  NonZealot | 09/26/07
They aren't Mac and Vista ads  voska | 09/26/07
Huh?  NonZealot | 09/26/07
Would agree Windows has 95% market share on the PC?  voska | 09/26/07
Here's what I'm really getting  voska | 09/26/07
IF that is what you are getting at, I agree  NonZealot | 09/26/07
Yes, I would agree with that  voska | 09/26/07
Please, NonZealot, you me and everyone knows Windows is on a PC.  nomoremicrosoft | 09/26/07
re: Please  Badgered | 09/27/07
Dell sells a product....  JoeMama_z | 09/26/07
Really it's kind of moot point  voska | 09/26/07
Microsoft may be a monopoly.....  JoeMama_z | 09/26/07
RE: Bring on naked PCs, says think tank  paulf@... | 09/26/07
Bring on naked PCs, says think tank  ermiec@... | 09/26/07
RE: Bring on naked PCs, says think tank  ltilley@... | 09/26/07
A few suggestions.  enduser_z | 09/26/07
re: mouse jump all over  Arm A. Geddon | 09/26/07
RE: Bring on naked PCs, says think tank  bobpeg | 09/26/07
Ubuntu seems to be the most popular choice...  Henry Miller | 09/26/07
RE: Bring on naked PCs, says think tank  The Days | 09/26/07
RE: Bring on naked PCs, says think tank  The Days | 09/26/07
Knowledge is needed for computer operating systems.  nomoremicrosoft | 09/26/07
RE: Bring on naked PCs, says think tank  skipplummer | 09/26/07
RE: Bring on naked PCs, says think tank  williamwacker3@... | 09/26/07
God Idea in my mind! With some changes though!!  bka1959 | 09/26/07
oops should Read "Good" Not "God"  bka1959 | 09/26/07
Can we start now?  Open means Good | 09/26/07
RE: Bring on naked PCs, says think tank  the_fiddler_on_the_roof | 09/26/07
RE: Bring on naked PCs, says think tank  carlsf@... | 09/26/07
that's what's so great nowadays with linux...  Arm A. Geddon | 09/26/07
Great idea...  mikifinaz1@... | 09/26/07
Bring on naked PCs, says think tank- I Disagree  Samuel C. | 09/27/07
Hummm?  darrahg | 09/27/07
Drivers  unclebiguns@... | 09/27/07
WOW! Censored AGAIN!  Linux User 147560 | 09/27/07
Sorry, my friend, I disagree with you on this one ...  George Mitchell | 09/27/07
George...  Linux User 147560 | 09/27/07
There are times when it happens to all of us ...  George Mitchell | 09/27/07
Wait a second.  xuniL_z | 09/28/07
No offense  Linux User 147560 | 09/28/07
RE: Bring on naked PCs, says think tank  roseiv@... | 09/27/07
This think tank needs to have its head examined!  Been_Done_Before | 09/27/07
Hmm, a not-so-subtle plug for the status quo...  Zogg | 09/27/07
@Linux User  AJ-Ubuntu-User | 09/27/07
So what is the choice? Not Linux !  kdcb@... | 09/27/07
RE: Bring on naked PCs, says think tank  Steven78 | 09/27/07
Want a Naked PC?  bobiroc | 09/27/07
A few points...  Zogg | 09/28/07
Yes, time for covered up naked PCs  Boot_Agnostic | 09/28/07
RE: Bring on naked PCs, says think tank  gsell | 09/29/07
Optional  roaming | 10/11/07
A damned god idea, so long as...  kaninelupus | 07/09/09

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