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When They Have A Package Like Office Pro: Give me a database system, darn it!; Posted by: JimSatterfieldW Posted on: 05/21/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Economics of OSS shift costs to the integration side (increased investment) oldskool | 05/19/04

repost (dang zd forum SW sux). oldskool | 05/19/04

But can you eat your cake and have it too? Patrick Jones | 05/19/04

Wasn't that the Unabomber construction? John Carroll

| 05/19/04

Cake (way off topic) Patrick Jones | 05/19/04

Flawed Analogies and assumptions Tim Patterson | 05/19/04

Some clarification John Carroll

| 05/19/04

Gatekeepers and admission costs Robert Crocker | 05/19/04

Costs John Carroll

| 05/19/04

Huh? Robert Crocker | 05/20/04

OSS allows more innovation...here's how. techboy_z | 05/19/04

Did you notice you called OpenOffice more innovative? Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

You might look at OO's drawing capabilities j.m.galvin | 05/19/04

When They Have A Package Like Office Pro JimSatterfieldW | 05/21/04

Problems John Carroll

| 05/19/04

Telling the true theo_durcan | 05/19/04

Competition John Carroll

| 05/19/04

You Are Mistaken P. Douglas | 05/19/04

A matter of degree Tim Patterson | 05/19/04

Re: A matter of degree John Carroll

| 05/19/04

Need is the incentive voska | 05/19/04

You agree, no price advantage for open source. Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

Absolutely is a price advantage Tim Patterson | 05/19/04

But there is a price advantage. el1jones | 05/19/04

Costs add up. Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

re: Costs add up Iain_Peters | 05/19/04

Because you agree to help. Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

Keeping programmers as pets Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

why innovate? ryusen | 05/19/04

Need, not money Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

actually ryusen | 05/19/04

Apples and Oranges Chad_z | 05/19/04

Valuation John Carroll

| 05/19/04

Why don't the usual rules for salaries apply? Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

Regarding Salaries John Carroll

| 05/19/04

What makes perception special here? Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

Wrong quote; let's try the one about salaries. Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

You can't compare physical objects to software... Robert Crocker | 05/19/04

You have a flawed understanding of the software StorageGuru | 05/19/04

That was amusing Robert Crocker | 05/19/04

Are you nuts ? JJ_z | 05/19/04

Not nuts, just looking elsewhere Robert Crocker | 05/19/04

You have a gap in your education, Crocker! Bill Weisgerber | 05/19/04

You are missing the point, Weisgerber! Taz_z | 05/19/04

Another one who only reads the linus line! Bill Weisgerber | 05/19/04

Thanks for your "learned" input Robert Crocker | 05/19/04

You still have to download it voska | 05/19/04

Do you really understands the different types of software products ? JJ_z | 05/19/04

To a certain extent, you're right John Carroll

| 05/19/04

But where is the incentive? Robert Crocker | 05/19/04

I can ignore software lies, but not the cheese market, too! techboy_z | 05/19/04

Demand for programming Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

Exactly, almost StorageGuru | 05/19/04

Agreed, but you're talking products OSS won't match Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

Almost.. Patrick Jones | 05/19/04

Good point ! mbraincell@... | 05/19/04

Not exactly... Patrick Jones | 05/19/04

This is funny. mbraincell@... | 05/19/04

Partially.. Patrick Jones | 05/19/04

Maxed out market John Carroll

| 05/19/04

Hey, ya wanna buy some software? Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

And... John Carroll

| 05/19/04

Let's turn that on it's head. Robert Crocker | 05/20/04

I've said it before, John bidemytime | 05/19/04

If Ifs and ands were pots and pans.... StorageGuru | 05/19/04

Indeed bidemytime | 05/19/04

Patronage techboy_z | 05/19/04

Working as a programmer John Carroll

| 05/19/04

Re: Patronage John L. Ries | 05/20/04

John, the slow-changing core is valuable. Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

Core Patrick Jones | 05/19/04

Models for software and selling Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

Shoes, ships and sealing wax... Patrick Jones | 05/19/04

MS "gives away" the Mac version of IE & Outlook Express j.m.galvin | 05/19/04

Seems unlikely Microsoft is giving gifts... Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

Nope j.m.galvin | 05/19/04

You know there was a reason for that, right? voska | 05/20/04

Regarding Apple and Linux Robert Crocker | 05/20/04

Regarding open sourcing the core John Carroll

| 05/19/04

Looking at all those limits... Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

Hmmm, what happens when computers are "self programming"? No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/19/04

Systems Analysts will rule again. :-D Robert Crocker | 05/19/04

Agreed Patrick Jones | 05/19/04

They walk the halls. Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

Funny. Patrick Jones | 05/19/04

Life with Fodder Anton Philidor | 05/19/04

never worked in power plant have you? voska | 05/19/04

Depends on the color of their shirt. No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/19/04

Quite some distance away voska | 05/19/04

I think the real key is a BIO chip. No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/19/04

Is this the same BIO chip voska | 05/20/04

Good point John Carroll

| 05/19/04

Big business in damaged hard drives actually voska | 05/20/04

AI Programming is... John Le'Brecage | 05/19/04

AI Programming is... seosamh_z | 05/20/04

They tried that - it was the failure of shrinkwrap SW - led to outsourcing oldskool | 05/19/04

They tried that - it was the failure of shrinkwrap SW - led to outsourcing seosamh_z | 05/20/04

Socialized Software P. Douglas | 05/19/04

I don't htink that's true NemesisNL | 05/20/04

soem comments ryusen | 05/19/04

How about the samples? StorageGuru | 05/19/04

About the $2,000 coat... Robert Crocker | 05/19/04

Re: About... John Carroll

| 05/19/04

The coat is raw material to feed the tailor and shoemaker oldskool | 05/19/04

A question of generation, perhaps? John Le'Brecage | 05/19/04

Formatting for Talkback Robert Crocker | 05/20/04

Thanks! Was stymied by that maxo_z | 05/21/04

truth is MS can drop prices and still compete with OSS oldskool | 05/19/04

truth is MS can drop prices and still compete with OSS seosamh_z | 05/20/04

False assumtion I: "FREE" software theo_durcan | 05/19/04

Free Software azurensis | 05/20/04

The cost of DB sure does matter voska | 05/20/04

MS access? NemesisNL | 05/24/04

ehm NemesisNL | 05/20/04

Not much to argue about John L. Ries | 05/20/04

I've long advocated a hybrid model for open source software companies scroisier | 05/21/04

Pricing pressure due to free software mr.pragmatic | 05/21/04

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