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One type of certification will work: licensing
If IT workers in the US were licensed based on the following criterion, it would help:

1-- citizenship

2-- a willingness to take legal responsibillity for actions within US law

3-- graduation from an accredited US institution

This would eliminate the vast glut of foreign IT workers without a commitment to US society. The hinge of this problem lies in the relationship between the Engineer and civic duty TO THEIR OWN COMMUNITY IN WHICH THEY PRACTICE.

See the IEEE statement on outsourcing for more details.
Posted by: mkern   Posted on: 05/06/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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AndAlso  rapson | 04/27/04
False sense of security  Chad_z | 04/27/04
Plus many MSCE's can't do the work.  maxo_z | 04/27/04
No need to even memorize the questions  voska | 04/27/04
No help as long as bean-counters exist  AbsolutelyNot | 04/27/04
many of the best developers I know  V Sanders | 04/28/04
That's because 'professionalism' can't be certified  escoles@... | 04/28/04
Offshoring jobs = Cheap-o wages bottom line  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
As far as I'm concerned...  dpayne@... | 04/28/04
Redhat certified can't do the work either  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
Not a microsoft bash- it was a MSCE bash.  maxo_z | 04/28/04
RHCE  SC-man | 04/29/04
Certification  Tinkerer62 | 05/06/04
I don't need no stinking badge!  DavidSommers | 04/28/04
re: I don't need no stinking badge  egurski | 04/28/04
MCSE's are not the same continued  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
No- Computing Degrees have a different issue.  maxo_z | 04/28/04
You must have a complex  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
Complex?  bluescreen_z | 04/29/04
Certifications are worthless  voska | 04/29/04
They're getting that way  AbsolutelyNot | 04/29/04
Certification  Tinkerer62 | 05/06/04
That is actually the correct approach  JeremyBarker | 05/02/04
How true  Mark Miller | 05/03/04
Huh, they're still doing that?  Mark Miller | 05/03/04
You Got to Be Joking  siliconrebel | 04/28/04
It's Good For One Thing  wbs00001 | 04/29/04
Education and Certifications  SC-man | 04/29/04
But people do not get new hearts every 3 years.  maxo_z | 05/03/04
I would also say the same about OO programming  WyldOne | 04/30/04
OO Programming  wbs00001 | 05/02/04
Software is now rushed out to meet market pressures  louiebergsagel@... | 04/30/04
I agree. Very real-world  Mark Miller | 05/03/04
Certification  Marlene_z | 05/04/04
Engineering vs. IT: Emphasis on certification misses the point badly  mkern | 05/06/04
One type of certification will work: licensing  mkern | 05/06/04
Licensing  Tinkerer62 | 05/07/04

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