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The answer is obvious...
.. or at least it should be.

Surely an invention is a device or technique or other method which is NEW and has never been seen before.

An innovation is an adaptation of an already existing idea or a combination of ideas. It adapts an existing method or device.

Of course there is the question of algorithms are they invented or discovered? I'd go for discovery myself particulary as they seem to be rediscovered on a regular basis whether or not somebody has written them down and patented it.

The trouble with all this though is that the big companies are insecure enough to want to own everything to ensure fat salaries and fat shareholder payouts. The only shares for them are the shareholders percentages.
Posted by: Ian Lewis   Posted on: 11/27/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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"I was thinking about it."  Anton Philidor | 11/27/06
I think it's obvious... we need...  el1jones | 11/27/06
The best patent examiners...  Anton Philidor | 11/27/06
Obvious?  earlkaplan@... | 11/27/06
IP property law depend on parties defending their rights against others  lamp299 | 02/21/07
I think that shouldn't be patentable  voska | 11/27/06
In any field...  Anton Philidor | 11/27/06
Thing is people have  voska | 11/27/06
I would say...  Patrick Jones | 11/27/06
Airplanes  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/27/06
Have to agree... spot on (nt)  el1jones | 11/27/06
But is that true???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/27/06
However..  Patrick Jones | 11/27/06
Huh?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/27/06
That is the original point!  Patrick Jones | 11/28/06
Duh?  el1jones | 11/28/06
IP - should it be patentable  dhopp@... | 11/27/06
How about a 'tangible' test  l_g_johnson@... | 11/27/06
Ridiculous  wjkahlssmd@... | 11/27/06
i agree with your litmus test, but...  Been_Done_Before | 11/27/06
Are You A Programmer?  wjkahlssmd@... | 11/27/06
I think is was more a metaphore  John Zern | 11/27/06
I thought of that!!!!  wjkahlssmd@... | 11/27/06
as long as it's physical . . .  CobraA1 | 11/27/06
Unfair  SRipley | 11/27/06
Agreed  CobraA1 | 11/27/06
The iPOd???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/27/06
They tried to patent their click wheel.  CobraA1 | 11/27/06
And oh, yeah . . .  CobraA1 | 11/27/06
Yes, it should...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/27/06
Re: Yes, it should...  none none | 11/27/06
The problem of "obvious" is "when".  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/27/06
There really is a simple solution to software patents.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/27/06
Re: There really is a simple solution to software patents.  none none | 11/27/06
There is no place for software patents  bitfuzzy | 11/27/06
agreed (nt)  CobraA1 | 11/27/06
The answer is obvious...  Ian Lewis | 11/27/06
valuable patent portfolio  Resuna | 11/27/06
Easy  Thore | 11/27/06
Obviousness  ESFabian | 11/27/06
Obviousness of Patents  stevem_001 | 11/27/06
Bogusoids gaming the system  NeutralityNow | 11/27/06
A reason stupid patents exist.  nm32help | 11/27/06
Patenting Software is like patenting math  davidsarmstrong | 11/27/06
Yes and no...  Allstar_z | 11/28/06
All patents must die [nt]  Omch'Ar | 11/27/06
Holy Smokes...  critique | 11/28/06
So a lab which develops a valuable idea...  Anton Philidor | 11/28/06
However..  Patrick Jones | 11/28/06
Thanks!  critique | 11/28/06
Ideas too important to patent?  Anton Philidor | 11/28/06
Woah Woah...  critique | 11/28/06
Oh Yeah....  critique | 11/28/06
I think we are being carried away by the "obviousness" test  lamp299 | 02/21/07
Freedom for the consumer  Dumber_z | 11/11/07

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