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Absoulutly quite wrong- Thanks for playing though.

If you host it and take it down, 512 protects you. They are getting sued for not taking it down. Tough luck kiddo.

They do take it down. Both MySpace and YouTube take it down once it is identified. What they are suing them for is that Universal Music Group believes they should heavily self police and self identify infringing works. That is right in this article.


The constitution already states we have a right to protect our works. Now you are saying blanket licensing takes it away. I do not think you are reading this right. This would invite everyone to take from you then settle under blanket license if it were automatic. It is an option and those rules only apply under it

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 8 says;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

You can not promote the useful arts if they are not published/available to the public. In maximizing profits there are times when creating scarcity would increase your profits. The purpose of section 115 is to allow a publisher to produce works that are out of print.

Again when it kicks in;

(1) When phonorecords of a nondramatic musical work have been distributed to the public in the United States under the authority of the copyright owner

It is compulsory and not opt-in. Once you publish it this section kicks in.

Also protection does not mean complete control over the work. Copyright only covers the 6 exclusive acts and then there are many exemptions (Section 110) and limitations, not to mention further exclusions against bringing liability against consumers , section 1008.

Read sections 107-122 if you do not believe this http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#107

These exemptions and limitations exist to balance the negative effects that giving a monopoly on those 6 acts on an expression would cause. One such exemption allows for libraries.

One of the exemptions is public displays on equipment sold typically for private homes... This exempts the industry from coming into your home as it would be very hard to regulate and still maintain some level of privacy.

All of this anti-RIAA is nothing but speculation on how the artist is screwed. We will never know for sure how much they get paid, but it isn't as bad as you guys claim. And it isn't our business either.

I posted 3-4 sources. I can post more. You just fail to believe it... if I post 100 sources you would still fail to believe it.

It is our business becuase they claim all this new regulation is to protect the poor artist. They say this while shafting them. The artist would come out ahead if we bypassed the labels and sent them $.25 for each track directly.

As far as them not trying to make the audio flag law in this lame duck congress well... http://news.com.com/Still+sticking+it+to+the+consumer/2010-1023_3-6135578.html

They in fact are trying to do just that. They have had their lobbyist push for this legislation and it is in front of this congress right now! It is not conspiracy theory but fact!

The Indies are not too good. I heard their music and think it sucks. If anything labels will pay more to artists because there is the internet. They really are going after the infringers.


Violent Fems has gone indie as have other popular bands. I would say the opposite- The label's bands are not so good.

If they were just going after the infringers then why are they not subpoenaing the uploaders information. This is simple- They want MySpace controlled. They don't really care about the infringement. What they want is a deal like the one that YouTube gave them where they get a cut and veto power on each uploaded file.

Grokster should had been 100% non-infringing. They would still be in business.

Is the typewritten 100% non-infringing. Does the internet as a whole have 100% non-infringing content. Using your argument we should just shut down the internet, ban computers, ban the printing press, ban the typewriter, ban the copy machine, and ban pen and paper- and put up surveillance cameras in everyone's home just to make sure they are not performing plays/songs without permission in their own homes.

Government's job is to referee free enterprise, and that is playing by the rules. The gov't doesn't belong in business to collect on behalf of them. Socialized media file swapping? Sorry pal, pay as you go, for my tax dollars will not tolerate it. I would rather throw them in jail. We already pay enough taxes on enough corporate welfare that I want eliminated. I am not going to subsidize your addiction to media.

The government already collects royalties under sections 111, 112, 114, 115, 116, 118, 119, and 1003;

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#111
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#112
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#114
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#115
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#116
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#118
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#119
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap10.html#1003

The government selected copyright arbitration royalty panels sets the rates for sections 114, 115, 116, and 119 plus they decide what is reasonable under section 118.

As far as why- I touched on it before but straight from the statute;

(A) To maximize the availability of creative works to the public;

So in short you better go call your congress man up ASAP!!! The government has been collecting royalty fees for years.

Posted by: Edward Meyers   Posted on: 11/19/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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