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Perhaps you should look at where MS is going
So much for unix skills

UNIX skills are all about systems administration. Any good admin can handle multiple syntax and procedural methodologies. There isn't too much difference between managing a server on two seperate OS's except for gratuitous changes made to complicate admins lives.

What is different is the level of knobs and hooks exposed and documented by the vendors. We understand Windows is tunable, but ya gotta admit poking a hex string into the registry to patch a kernel variable which is not well documented is less efficient than having all the hooks exposed. Sure ya can say UNIX is more complicated, but that why it gets more work done and is used in real back end stuff vs. a narrow range of applications like Windows is useful for.

Everything I read had MS acknowleging they need to expose more of the OS to admins and remove the eye candy to be useful in real big iron production environments. Its very difficult to click 5,000 checkboxes at once but a 10 line scirpt does the same thing in a controlled fashion and is obviously a better approach than a GUI.
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NYeT might have a future in real computing  oldskool | 04/02/04
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Perhaps you should look at where MS is going  oldskool | 04/02/04
Perhaps you should look at where MS is going  seosamh_z | 04/02/04
think enterprise not desktop ... its bigger than a lan  oldskool | 04/02/04
think enterprise not desktop ... its bigger than a lan  seosamh_z | 04/02/04
some people like gui's  V Sanders | 04/04/04
Is this the same MS as B4 EU ruling?  oldskool | 04/02/04
MS refesed to team up B4 Win3.11  oldskool | 04/02/04
Scott 's son???  mabricen | 04/02/04
it's all about the Benjamins  oldskool | 04/02/04
Totally agree  mabricen | 04/02/04
it's all about the Benjamins  seosamh_z | 04/02/04
You're all missing the point, is all about fighting IBM (NT)  Ardian Daka | 04/02/04
Bingo  rapson | 04/02/04
And ...  Ardian Daka | 04/02/04
Sun brings alot of credibility to MS's story  oldskool | 04/02/04
Depends on who you ask  Ardian Daka | 04/02/04
No, it's about OSS and startups...  techboy_z | 04/02/04
Correct, but ...  Ardian Daka | 04/02/04
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but...  ryusen | 04/02/04
True  NemesisNL | 04/03/04
The Notorious Pretender.  systemcleaner | 04/03/04
"Peace In Our Time"  BanjoPaterson | 04/02/04
Very hard to believe  BruceWheelock@... | 04/02/04
Real reason for this hugh agreement  JJ_z | 04/02/04
If so  mabricen | 04/02/04
If so  seosamh_z | 04/02/04
followed you up until #4  oldskool | 04/02/04
You're making my point  JJ_z | 04/02/04
You're making my point  seosamh_z | 04/02/04
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Sun competes on value and vision  seosamh_z | 04/04/04
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Sun is and always was a HW company  oldskool | 04/02/04
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#2 and #5  NemesisNL | 04/03/04
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A Great Friday Armchair Topic  Peter Komisar | 04/02/04
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