Sun settles with Microsoft, announces layoffs

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NYeT might have a future in real computing: Are both companies feeling a threat from some third party?

I would think so. Low cost Linux commodity machines becoming the standard in corporations are getting closer to destroying both franchises. The need to stop squabbling and focus their R&D on big problems and let the OSS community pick up the chaff. Don't expect Office to remain the cash cow it used to be ... even MS has to know this!

2 billions are a lot of money and I'm wondering if it was worth it, since Sun had only a 1 billion claim in it's suit!

Don't forget the royalties. Both companies agreed to pay royalties to the other for the use of their technology. Imagine if MS ported the J2EE stack to C# and made it part of the .NET environment. Overnight MS would be a viable Enterprise development platform and Sun would have a huge channel for SW technology.

They talked about patent issues, but nobody was aware of them

Sun is one of the premier R&D shops in the industry. Crap on Solaris if you want but Sun HW is in a class above the PD architecture. Sun could help MS redefine the legacy PC to be the next generation platform. MS can work with Sun or let Walmart do it for them ... pretty smart for MS to try to get Sun onside and push the "I'm taking my ball and leaving" playground bully stuff into history.

Sun can bring MS into big iron computing which is alot more attractive than MS bringing Sun into high priced desktop segments of the industry - those are basically already Sun's business anyway. And MS already realizes Sun is making headway in the low cost desktop segement ... time for a truce!; Posted by: oldskool Posted on: 04/02/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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No Surprise mabricen | 04/02/04

That is, until the next lawsuit.. Delaware Boy | 04/02/04

I bet it's more than 10 years StorageGuru | 04/02/04

I thought it was April's fool dg mh | 04/02/04

NYeT might have a future in real computing oldskool | 04/02/04

Well.... NemesisNL | 04/02/04

In other news... BitTwiddler | 04/02/04

The Sun is setting Enterprise Analyst | 04/02/04

Perhaps you should look at where MS is going oldskool | 04/02/04

Perhaps you should look at where MS is going seosamh_z | 04/02/04

think enterprise not desktop ... its bigger than a lan oldskool | 04/02/04

think enterprise not desktop ... its bigger than a lan seosamh_z | 04/02/04

some people like gui's V Sanders | 04/04/04

Is this the same MS as B4 EU ruling? oldskool | 04/02/04

MS refesed to team up B4 Win3.11 oldskool | 04/02/04

Scott 's son??? mabricen | 04/02/04

it's all about the Benjamins oldskool | 04/02/04

Totally agree mabricen | 04/02/04

it's all about the Benjamins seosamh_z | 04/02/04

You're all missing the point, is all about fighting IBM (NT) Ardian Daka | 04/02/04

Bingo rapson | 04/02/04

And ... Ardian Daka | 04/02/04

Sun brings alot of credibility to MS's story oldskool | 04/02/04

Depends on who you ask Ardian Daka | 04/02/04

No, it's about OSS and startups... techboy_z | 04/02/04

Correct, but ... Ardian Daka | 04/02/04

it is all about getting there first V Sanders | 04/02/04

but... ryusen | 04/02/04

True NemesisNL | 04/03/04

The Notorious Pretender. systemcleaner | 04/03/04

"Peace In Our Time" BanjoPaterson | 04/02/04

Very hard to believe BruceWheelock@... | 04/02/04

Real reason for this hugh agreement JJ_z | 04/02/04

If so mabricen | 04/02/04

If so seosamh_z | 04/02/04

followed you up until #4 oldskool | 04/02/04

You're making my point JJ_z | 04/02/04

You're making my point seosamh_z | 04/02/04

Sun competes on value and vision oldskool | 04/02/04

Sun competes on value and vision seosamh_z | 04/04/04

Actually, alot of developers get MSDN for free - who cares? oldskool | 04/04/04

Sun is and always was a HW company oldskool | 04/02/04

Reason 4A. JJ_z | 04/02/04

Sun didn't need to licese UNIX from SCO .. they bought it oldskool | 04/02/04

#2 and #5 NemesisNL | 04/03/04

It could be a win/win oldskool | 04/03/04

Sun needs to get focus back Rodney Davis | 04/02/04

A Great Friday Armchair Topic Peter Komisar | 04/02/04

Seems odd rapson | 04/02/04

Gotta give MS it's due.... quietLee | 04/02/04

ms loves the competition V Sanders | 04/03/04

Scott admits defeat? No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/02/04

That's the way I want to be defeated... NemesisNL | 04/03/04

Microsoft did the same thing with Apple many years back. B.O.F.H. | 04/04/04

This situation's a bit different Mark Miller | 04/05/04

We got 2 billion dollars! Chad_z | 04/02/04

And the way Sun is burning thru cash: Stewart Cannon | 04/15/04

sun gets 1.5 bil from ms V Sanders | 04/02/04

Why would Microsoft prop up Sun? Anton Philidor | 04/02/04

Sun solves quite a few problems for MS if they want oldskool | 04/02/04

Nope, Sun is de-emphasizing hardware Anton Philidor | 04/03/04

ah, some people use c#, thanks V Sanders | 04/03/04

Yeah, C# blows java away.... Stewart Cannon | 04/15/04

Sun is a useful ally StorageGuru | 04/02/04

Still say the issue is Java. Anton Philidor | 04/03/04

ms doesn't want anything to do with java V Sanders | 04/03/04

J2EE support in C# one alternative, dump C# is another oldskool | 04/03/04

b ut a lot of people use C# V Sanders | 04/03/04

People still depend on MS Basic too .... oldskool | 04/04/04

3 million Java developers Anton Philidor | 04/05/04

April fool's day was yesterday. zd-spam | 04/03/04

OOPS--- OOPS---April fool's day was two days ago. zd-spam | 04/03/04

MS has NO chance gaining michael-t | 04/03/04

No chance???? HA-HA-HA-HA Stewart Cannon | 04/15/04

Sun the next AOL? FilledOut | 04/02/04

Lets hope 1 billion in charity is enough jimk_z | 04/02/04

ms can never win V Sanders | 04/04/04

Firewall does not secure the applications on the machine oldskool | 04/05/04

MS now owns Corel, Apple, SCO, AOL, Sun... who's next? Michel Merlin | 04/03/04

ZDNET is next Saxonborg | 04/03/04

if it wasn't for ms wanting to V Sanders | 04/03/04

humm alphaomega | 04/03/04

PeopleSoft, man... Stewart Cannon | 04/15/04

A welcome surprise Mark Miller | 04/05/04

Message has been deleted. do not use linuxcad | 04/05/04

Does it mean Sun needs new chief of software? do not use linuxcad | 04/05/04

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