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---want to make certain their adds are seen. Otherwise there is no reason for them to pay for the content.---

How will the broadcast flag ensure that commercials are seen? We both know it will not stop shows from ending up on p2p networks. It will, however, force people to pay for copies of shows they miss, copies on dvd or downloads which will not contain commercials.

---As I said, that is part of the social contract and you can bury your head in the sand and say it's not all you want, that won't change a thing.---

It strikes me as really terrible bargaining to give up major concessions in a contract and gain nothing in return.

---PERHAPS IF YOU HAD STOOD UP AND DENOUNCED PIRATING DURING THE LAST THREE YEARS WE WOULD NOT BE LOSING FAIR USE RIGHTS!!!---

I've denounced pirating repeatedly over the last 3 years. I work in publishing and make my living from copyright. Infringement is wrong, and should be illegal.

Guess what? It made no difference.

Furthermore, let's suppose that tomorrow, all p2p networks, all filesharing, all infringement disappeared. Do you think the networks and studios would no longer want a broadcast flag? It gives them the ability to prevent you from recording a show, so you now will have to pay them to time shift or space shift. That sounds like a great deal for them, a way to make lots and lots of extra money. Do you think they'd just ignore this new stream of revenue because of some sort of "social contract"? I don't think that would be the case at all.

So if they're not willing to honor the social contract, why should I?
Posted by: tic swayback   Posted on: 06/29/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Surprise  Tim Patterson | 06/28/06
They did manage to keep the Broadcast Flag Amenedment  alricsca | 06/28/06
Thank goodness they did!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/28/06
What crap  rhavyn | 06/28/06
YOu don't understand the term "social contract"...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/28/06
And you don't understand "ownership"  tic swayback | 06/29/06
You own nothing but EMPTY air waves.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
Extremely valuable empty airwaves  tic swayback | 06/29/06
Yes, valuable to advertizers.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
Advertisers don't buy spectrum  tic swayback | 06/29/06
No thanks, I LIKE free content. No one will agree  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
Watch and see  tic swayback | 06/29/06
Indeed, wait and see... And if it fails...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
The more your restrict it...  tic swayback | 06/29/06
Most of the people never record anything.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
Nice post, Axey!  Hugh Jass | 06/28/06
Advertisement visibility will decline.  HypnoToad | 06/28/06
See my reply below: (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/28/06
Thanks, Let explain the flag if I may.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/28/06
Falg = More social contract laws to support Corp. Greed  raycote | 06/28/06
When was the last time you paid for Broadcast?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
What about the 90-minute  ebrke | 06/29/06
Once more, that is not the flag.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
As I understand it, the flag carries  ebrke | 06/29/06
Flag is two bits  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
Wow, talk about naive  tic swayback | 06/29/06
Your exapmles have NOTHING to do with BROADCAST.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
So it won't be used for anything at all?  tic swayback | 06/29/06
Of course they will place limitations on THIER content.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
More punishing the victim  tic swayback | 06/29/06
Victim? How much money have you spent on open air?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
VIctim  tic swayback | 06/29/06
See you are catching on...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
Gouged???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
Gouged  tic swayback | 06/29/06
Finally we agree. The people paying for content  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
More misguided blaming the victim  tic swayback | 06/29/06
What part of YES I AGREE escapes you?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
And yet...  tic swayback | 06/29/06
What you can't record, you can't pirate.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
It will certainly decline for me  ebrke | 06/29/06
And you are .00000001% of the public.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
Well, then they may as well kick out the sponsors.  HypnoToad | 06/28/06
Lots have tried, all have failed.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/28/06
WOW, DID YOU EVER MISS IT!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/28/06
Not this nonsense again  tic swayback | 06/29/06
You never shot anything but your mouth tic.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
Funny how you have no answers to my arguments  tic swayback | 06/29/06
Becaue you haven't made a valid argument.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
Still no answers, big surprise  tic swayback | 06/29/06
Your only point is "I want my rights"  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
because the "media" is a powerful tool  ghekko | 06/28/06
rejected strict Net neutrality rules  not of this world | 06/28/06
Mr. Stevens is like Alaska... disconnected from the rest of US.  Mr. Roboto | 06/28/06
Cox didn't blacklist Craig's List  richardbennett | 06/28/06
Small mind meets small mind  rjlaws@... | 06/28/06
Well, when this - like many things the Repubs say will help, does a 180 and  HypnoToad | 06/28/06
another pay raise?  uk_forum@... | 05/29/07
AT&T and Verizon just have better lobbyists with more money...  BitTwiddler | 06/29/06
I don't understand  rapson | 06/29/06
New paradigm  tic swayback | 06/29/06
Change: Bigger Pipes.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
Net neutrality  jrnoles | 06/29/06
Net Neutrality  jack@... | 06/30/06
Senate blows anything.... for a price?.  robertk2 | 07/01/06

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