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In my experience, the reason most people like tabbed browsers is because they solve problems with the TASKBAR. A tabbed browser doesn't clutter your taskbar, and the tabs are easier to use than taskbar buttons.

The taskbar comes in the wrong place. It's horizontal, so your buttons are never the same width unless you only have two or three things open. You can't fit many icons in your QuickLaunch bar or system tray. The start button is in the single most inconvenient area of the screen to click. And if you're auto-hiding your taskbar, it slows down your access to it.

Now take your taskbar, drag it to the right hand side of your screen, and resize it until the "Start" button is just barely large enough to still say "Start". Use THAT for a couple of days. Notice how many buttons can fit on the taskbar now. Notice how when you shove your mouse out of the way to work on something, it goes right to the start button and all your taskbar buttons. Notice how it's easier to point your mouse vertically than horizontally, so you click the wrong button a lot less often. Notice how it's easier to visually scan the screen horizontally than vertically, so it's easier to *look* at the taskbar here.

And now that the taskbar works so much better, you'll start to find that tabbed browsing is somewhat more annoying than IE-style browsing with multiple windows. A tabbed browser is just one button on the taskbar, which is nice when you can't fit many buttons there -- but now that you have more than enough space to stack up buttons on the taskbar, it becomes a serious bother to click on your browser and *then* click on a tab. IE puts a button on the taskbar for every page, so you can click once to go right to the desired page immediately.

Is tabbed browsing worthless? Of course not.
Tabbed browsers are EXCELLENT for development. By saving out a group of pages representing a complete project, you can change a CSS file and then load that group of pages to click through and make sure they all look okay with the new styles. You can't do this very easily with IE.

Which is exactly why Visual Studio .NET and FrontPage have tabbed browsing. It's great when you're developing web sites. When you're looking at them... well, not so much.
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I have three computers....  wploger | 03/02/04
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my post...  wploger | 03/02/04
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you're right  ryusen | 03/03/04
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yes  Hanover Phist | 03/02/04
No!  CDarklock | 03/04/04
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This is called "capitalism".  CDarklock | 03/03/04
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Lock-in  CDarklock | 03/04/04
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nog...  ryusen | 03/03/04
Man, that was painful  Eggs Ackley_z | 03/04/04
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