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Dang, Axey. How long has it been since ...
... you and I agreed, 100% on something? Scary, eh?

The way I understand the argument, Berty "Big G, Man" Gonzales sez he wants these records retained because they are critical to the prosecution of the bad guys.

How so? There is NOTHING in those records which you can tie to a specific, flesh-and-blood person. If you walk into a courtroom with some ISP's logs as your primary evidence, you'll be laughed out of court.

What frosts me is the opposing side's contention that because I disagree with this record keeping I am somehow soft on child porn. Nothing could be further from the truth, but what is MORE important to me is responsible parenting.

Parents would not dream of sending their 11-year-old to play, unattended, at a downtown city park surrounded by strip clubs, crack houses and sleazebags wandering the sidewalks. Yet these same parents think nothing of plunking this same kid down in front of a PC attached to the Internet and leaving the room to do chores.

What NEEDS to happen is these parents need to always be present with the kid as they explore the big, bad Internet TOGETHER. (If only because, according to the last numbers I saw, over 80% of the web sites on the Net are pornography related.) That way, the parent can head off the bad guys, and report them, when they appear.

No, stripped of all the smoochy political correctness, this proposal is exposed for what it really is: a way to spy on political opponents.
Posted by: OButterball   Posted on: 04/20/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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investigations into gruesome online sex crimes???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/20/06
Very Carefully  ASkillz | 04/20/06
Just to a stab at this  voska | 04/20/06
Ah, you mean the million year old  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/20/06
Right you are but  voska | 04/20/06
Thankyou  Shelendrea | 04/20/06
And if i thought this would do that...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/20/06
Won't stop it but will make it easier  voska | 04/20/06
But...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/20/06
Dang, Axey. How long has it been since ...  OButterball | 04/20/06
With out the those records  voska | 04/21/06
Nope, a shrewd defense attorney will point out ...  OButterball | 04/21/06
How silly...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/20/06
And that is..  Spicoli's Avenger | 04/20/06
Shsssh, your not supposed to be  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/20/06
Is it so silly?  voska | 04/20/06
Yes it is...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/20/06
$500,000 fine and jail time?  voska | 04/20/06
Assumptions  bhartman36 | 04/21/06
And I can see that point  Shelendrea | 04/20/06
How???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/20/06
*sigh*  Shelendrea | 04/20/06
sigh indeed...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/21/06
Apparently nobody is home in your head Axey  Shelendrea | 04/21/06
So what???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/21/06
I don't know which I fear more, Bush or people like you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/21/06
And people like you  Shelendrea | 04/21/06
People like me, my fatherm and my grandfather  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/21/06
So because you served in the military  Shelendrea | 04/25/06
As a parent, as an IT worker - this is stupid  ejhonda | 04/20/06
Not if the goal is to spy on you and me...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/20/06
without a warrant  Net-Tech_z | 04/20/06
Tough Poopie !  BitTwiddler | 04/20/06
They are ready do this John Doe law suits  voska | 04/20/06
Tsk Tsk Tsk  Shelendrea | 04/20/06
Won't work at all..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/20/06
No more so than any other spying  voska | 04/20/06
Good point  Shelendrea | 04/20/06
Police already do this  voska | 04/20/06
But, it simply will not do what you want.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/20/06
These types aren't that smart though  voska | 04/20/06
Your dead wrong on this...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/20/06
I don't think so  voska | 04/20/06
the gov is gradually owning all your life  Linux Geek | 04/20/06
but it saves us electricity  loan-wolf | 04/21/06
As a general rule of thumbe I would suggest NEVER  Laff | 04/21/06
I GET IT!  Roger Ramjet | 04/21/06
The real reason for this...  wkulecz | 04/21/06
And the lawyers too of course.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/21/06
THIS IS SIMPLE!!!!!!  Protector | 04/21/06
Our Country  Protector | 04/21/06
U.S. attorney general calls for 'reasonable' data retention  Grey dog | 05/18/06

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