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I believe many of our founding farthers struggled with
the idea's of making our government as secure as possible even
from it's own people. Some did not have a great deal of faith in
the wisdom of the mob. That line is badly quoted is in one of
our founding documents so it is one of the fail safes along with
many checks and balances they put in to try and insure that even
despite themselves the people as a general rule remain free.

Second we are not a democracy but rather a republic.

Now just because you MIGHT choose to say Pagan Jim you are
less free because we the people have made the decision for you I
still don't have to agree not only because of our founding
farthers but also because of my will to be and live free
regardless of what anyone says even our Founding Farthers.
You can kill me, or imprission me (if you can catch me) but that
does not change much of anything for me......too me freedom
has always demanded a price to be paid and I'm more than
willing to take the risks inherent in liveing life free and on my
terms and that means paying the price in the process.

Pagan jim
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