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I have been doing job search (and got one thank for Internet), but your approach is too lazy. You are supposed to do networking and talking with recruiters. Just publishing your resume will not buy you anything except an occasional e-mail offer which is mismatch frequently.

The people that read the resume sites (HotJobs, Monster, etc.) are often recruiters. Since I am (largely) a contractor, agencies and recruiters have been calling me for the past year (and they really don't care if I have a job or not, they just call, send emails or IM me). It may sound lazy but it has been landing me contracts and job offers for a while now (even when I don't want them). I suspect that it has to do with having skills that are in demand, since it has not always been like this.

So far I have recieved calls and emails from boththe US and Europe, so I don't know what to tell you on that. I personally regard what I do as faiurly easy and common, though I am told that it is not (by both recruiters, hiring managers and random people that engage me in conversation). The only delta is sometimes they ask if I am willing to be an emplyee rather than a contractor (I do both).

If you want to get a really well paid job then better grab phone and talk to those people from offers. Job offers are frequently published with delay, but you can get another one.

Most recruiting agencies already have access to these "not yet published" job listings and they also have access to many of the job boards. Some people have less luck than I do, I know of a few people who were amazed that I got a minimum of 5 or 6 people calling me, countless emails regarding my resume ("I was looking on [fill on the name] and came accross your resume. I have a position that may be of interest to you...."). Doesn't happen for everyone, just my experience since about 2000.

No I will not tell you what days of week are the best to apply for jobs to spend least time on seeking one while having the most return. I worked hard enough to figure it out myself and that's competition secret. In any case I got jobn with high profile Wall Street operating (securities) corporation... thanks to Internet.

I have no idea what days are best to call, I just know that I had $300 phone bills and 90% of them were incoming. It really depends on having the skills and experience that people/the market wants at a given time. I have never been impressed by any of the numbers that people tell me (regarding what they offer or make) since I was jaded by a woman who made somewher in the high 5 figures a month on her own venture (and no VC OPM). But I digress...

Some of us got lucky to get a job weven with Bloomberg this way.

Some are lucky, depends on the market. I usually have to agree (when I take a job) that I will stay for some amount of time, with the hiring manager/client/emplyer knowing that I will be getting a half dozen calls a day and copious emails or IM's regardng some job opportunity or contract of whatever. It is mostly luck (and perhaps that my resume has what is in demand).

And yes out of tens and hundreds of comunications (usually e-mails) you can sometimes get 5% of response. these days job market is great, but I bet that most of responses will be mismatch based on finding some word in your published resume.

I don't send out emails (or resumes) unless the are requested by someone. This is more due to file format issues (they want it in MS Word format), beyond that I have done nothing. No solicitations to companies, no calls, no IM's, nothing. I think most people on this site know what I do for work and what my sideline business is. Granted, some of these are noname compnaies like Salesforce and Microsoft, but sometimes they are in different fields... I am reactive, not proactive!

How bad those search engines/match engines are... weel put a word that you worked in IT developing some system for human resources at some seafood processing company and they may send you an offer for fisherman job ;)

Your results are different from mine. As I have said (numerous times in this response), they call me and run up my phone bill, even when I am on contract. It is a question of havig what is in demand at the time, not so much ones search methedologies.

Really depends on the market.
Posted by: B.O.F.H.   Posted on: 03/23/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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