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How about TIVO and other appliances.
They have an embedded linux OS system with MS codecs running to open up protected content. You can quit your waiting now.
Posted by: osreinstall   Posted on: 03/22/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Apple is another M$ wana be!  Linux Geek | 03/22/06
Apple is Wor$e than M$  rcleetus@... | 03/22/06
What behavior is that, exactly?  tic swayback | 03/22/06
Are you serious?!?!  ovidtchr | 03/23/06
Are YOU serious?  butler360 | 03/24/06
Hey Clueless, MS DOES play on all sorts  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/22/06
Really  voska | 03/22/06
His point is that Microsoft doesn't make the hardware ...  ShadeTree | 03/22/06
What has that to do with Media?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/22/06
Media is the wrong word  voska | 03/23/06
Still waiting  joe_coder | 03/22/06
Microsoft will license their codec to anyone!  ShadeTree | 03/22/06
Not completely true  tic swayback | 03/22/06
No, Linspire didn't...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/22/06
Can you back that up?  tic swayback | 03/22/06
If Michael says it, it must be true!  ShadeTree | 03/23/06
How is that a lie?  voska | 03/23/06
Calling someone a liar doesn't prove the point  tic swayback | 03/23/06
Revisionist History Tic!  ShadeTree | 03/23/06
Best go back to your time machine  tic swayback | 03/23/06
Once again Tic, you are twisting ...  ShadeTree | 03/24/06
Oh please  tic swayback | 03/24/06
Once again ...  ShadeTree | 03/24/06
No problem, you can license it tommorow.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/22/06
How about TIVO and other appliances.  osreinstall | 03/22/06
Microsoft should make Windows Media for Mac  MacGeek2121 | 03/24/06
Apple is RIGHT...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/22/06
I don't see how  voska | 03/22/06
DRM would not restrict players.  Anton Philidor | 03/22/06
The two step is a nice dance but it is  jlanders@... | 03/24/06
You think it's a good idea because...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/22/06
What if you had to buy "Corvette" petrol  Mad Dan | 03/23/06
Then I would not buy a Corvette. See how simple it is.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/23/06
If you buy "Corvette" petrol for your Honda  ovidtchr | 03/23/06
Nothing to do with GM. This affect pirates  voska | 03/23/06
Apple's agreement with the Music Companies ...  ShadeTree | 03/23/06
It's much easier to fine small amounts  voska | 03/23/06
ISPs have no legal authority to fine anybody ...  ShadeTree | 03/23/06
Apple's agreement & DRM  cubbage@... | 03/24/06
Question for you No Ax--  tic swayback | 03/22/06
All I can do is offer an opinion...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/22/06
Pulling out may not matter  tic swayback | 03/22/06
Pulling out is crucial for media market survival.  osreinstall | 03/22/06
I disagree  voska | 03/23/06
The French do it right, rarely.  osreinstall | 03/23/06
But does it matter if they're in France?  tic swayback | 03/23/06
Yes it matters  osreinstall | 03/23/06
To accomplish that...  tic swayback | 03/23/06
So What?!  osreinstall | 03/23/06
There are fines  voska | 03/23/06
Here's a better idea  tic swayback | 03/23/06
France is doing this to be au contraire.  osreinstall | 03/23/06
And all the P2P pirates are innocent  voska | 03/23/06
Pirates are not innocent.  osreinstall | 03/23/06
Can't see it happening OS  tic swayback | 03/23/06
I can. But not the way you laid it out.  osreinstall | 03/23/06
They are in the top 10  tic swayback | 03/23/06
The are not an economic juggernaut.  osreinstall | 03/23/06
How?  tic swayback | 03/24/06
How? Just by pulling up stakes and leaving.  osreinstall | 03/24/06
I can't see it making a difference  tic swayback | 03/24/06
You still don't get it.  osreinstall | 03/24/06
Europe goes the french way  cubbage@... | 03/24/06
Another industry bites the dust.  osreinstall | 03/24/06
No, they are not.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/23/06
Interesting question:  tic swayback | 03/23/06
Yes - to a point  ovidtchr | 03/23/06
Both you and Apple are wrong  kckn4fun | 03/23/06
Forced agreement never works.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/23/06
True enough  voska | 03/23/06
If it was an EU company no one would be saying or doing anything.  IronCladChicken | 03/24/06
French law...hmmm  vince@... | 03/22/06
If you like being screwed  voska | 03/22/06
Move to France?  tic swayback | 03/22/06
Yep if I live in France, I'd break my iPod if I have one... silly  Grayson Peddie | 03/22/06
But would you?  voska | 03/22/06
Format shifting is only allowed by the media company  tic swayback | 03/22/06
Is it illegal in France?  voska | 03/22/06
It's legal now  tic swayback | 03/22/06
Message has been deleted.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/22/06
It works both ways  rdwhitti | 03/22/06
Screw the Frogs, pull the plug!  gtdworak | 03/22/06
Apple is wrong here, but this law sucks!  tic swayback | 03/22/06
Ok, the law does suck  voska | 03/22/06
Changed their iTune  Nigel Johnstone | 03/22/06
The French are in a bit of a fluff  Ken_z | 03/22/06
Not so fast.  3Dman | 04/08/06
I think you misunderstand  tima_z | 03/22/06
Message has been deleted.  toxicfreak | 03/22/06
But they're harming their citizens at the same time  tic swayback | 03/22/06
your right  toxicfreak | 03/22/06
Yup burning cars seems to be the thing  voska | 03/22/06
And likewise  Michael Kelly | 03/22/06
One difference there  voska | 03/22/06
If everyone business left...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/22/06
god your a moron nt  toxicfreak | 03/22/06
What did you expect from our resident troll? (NT)  James T. Kirk | 03/23/06
This is GREAT for everyone  Nigel Johnstone | 03/22/06
Zero is allowed under the law  tic swayback | 03/22/06
susceptible to being used to open up data  Nigel Johnstone | 03/23/06
Do you have a link?  tic swayback | 03/23/06
the solution could be simple  toxicfreak | 03/22/06
Consumers: to be on the wolf?s dinner or not to be? Tough choice. (NT)  Vily Clay | 03/22/06
Even tougher choice  tic swayback | 03/22/06
Then you may agree with my first draft where the first word was SHEEP. (NT)  Vily Clay | 03/22/06
Apple needs to pull out  dave95 | 03/22/06
Apple and Microsoft are the DRM villains  Nigel Johnstone | 03/23/06
RIAA is the true villains  dave95 | 03/23/06
No heroes here  tic swayback | 03/23/06
What other choice did they have.....  dave95 | 03/23/06
Doesn't make them good guys  tic swayback | 03/23/06
No, but.......  dave95 | 03/23/06
Here's the thing though  tic swayback | 03/23/06
Yeah, So what?  Dave P. | 03/22/06
Apple and Microsoft DRM Bandits  Nigel Johnstone | 03/23/06
No matter what, the end user gets screwed.  kraterz | 03/22/06
You have my vote....  dave95 | 03/22/06
No this is good  Nigel Johnstone | 03/23/06
Bonnie and Clyde, Apple and Microsoft  Nigel Johnstone | 03/23/06
Children get upset when they can't get their way....  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 03/23/06
It true what Feble has said here......MS still whines today  Laff | 03/23/06
In ohter news  Real World | 03/23/06
If No_Ax listened to Mad Dan  kckn4fun | 03/23/06
This is bordering on ridiculous  Nostrildamus | 03/23/06
export to CD  Amberhawk | 03/23/06
Simple answer.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/23/06
what the hell are you talking about  toxicfreak | 03/23/06
France can strip the C.R.A.P. off music files.  Mr. Roboto | 03/23/06
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!!  Protector | 03/23/06
This is like me wanting  mrlinux | 03/23/06
Moives also  mrlinux | 03/23/06
Not quite  voska | 03/23/06
What else is the state capable of? [nt]  Omch'Ar | 03/23/06
Whether or not you agree with the law....  Scrat | 03/24/06
Who are the pirates?  bearwil | 03/24/06
Finally, a reason to cheer the French...  msdead | 03/24/06
State Sponsored Piracy?  Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 03/24/06

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