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who's CD's had the software on it? Did the artists know it was included on the disc?
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Linus...read "digital RESTRICTION management..."  Grayson Peddie | 02/03/06
Enforce?  George Mitchell | 02/03/06
BINGO!  bill@... | 02/03/06
You can't?  bill@... | 02/03/06
Can't control what you watch, only where you watch  John Zern | 02/03/06
Force? It's not yours to force anything.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
Right On!  Hemlock_z | 02/03/06
Does this make sense or what?  George Mitchell | 02/03/06
Yes in every possible way!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
I agree  crocd | 02/06/06
I think the problems with GPL3 are way overblown.  DonnieBoy | 02/03/06
Why should he participate at all?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
He does not have to participate, but the tissy fits put him in a bad light.  DonnieBoy | 02/03/06
Dude, you need a history course. (Amoung other things)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
Linus Torvalds wrote the kernel using the sweat and blood from Stallmans  DonnieBoy | 02/03/06
Are you really that friggin clueless?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
The kernel is a very small part of the OS. Torvalds used all of the other  DonnieBoy | 02/03/06
My fault, I thought logic and reason would work with you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
Why are you determined to make this into a religeous crusade?  George Mitchell | 02/04/06
Bit off  node357 | 02/05/06
Everything is replaceable.  Suicida| | 02/06/06
Linus not constructive?  A.Sinic | 02/06/06
But it's not Linus who is crusading on this ...  George Mitchell | 02/04/06
Linus is standing for ignorance on this not reason  hipparchus2001 | 02/05/06
There Can Be Only One...  bill@... | 02/03/06
Why does my local music store lockup at night?  John Zern | 02/03/06
It's different..  Laff | 02/03/06
Your fist sentence said it all....  John Zern | 02/04/06
Right of first sale  tic swayback | 02/04/06
Simply Illegal  Mectron | 12/01/06
Key words:  tic swayback | 02/03/06
DRM covers the content  thetargos | 02/04/06
Very nicely said  John Zern | 02/04/06
Nicely said, but based on an incorrect premise  tic swayback | 02/04/06
And don't forget...  Tony Agudo | 02/04/06
I Bought into nothing  John Zern | 02/04/06
Buying into it  tic swayback | 02/05/06
Maybe this is why my view is slightly differnt  John Zern | 02/05/06
We're in agreement  tic swayback | 02/06/06
But after I buy it, it is MY content  tic swayback | 02/04/06
Curious. Who were the artists  John Zern | 02/04/06
Here's the list  tic swayback | 02/05/06
Makes sense. Alienating your fans  John Zern | 02/05/06
Not only but also...  Fred Fredrickson | 02/05/06
So when that dollars-worth of medium...  s_gamgee | 02/07/06
Torvalds says DRM isn't necessarily bad  Loverock Davidson | 02/03/06
RE: Torvalds says DRM isn't necessarily bad  richdave | 02/03/06
RE: Torvalds says DRM isn't necessarily bad  Loverock Davidson | 02/03/06
you are one against mainy  stormdoor | 02/03/06
Mr. chime in with 2 cents speaks again  Loverock Davidson | 02/03/06
Re: Zealots  Suicida| | 02/06/06
I'm with you man!  just^me | 02/04/06
Or the morons who bleet "anything but OSS"  mdsmedia | 02/10/06
Linus should keep his mouth shut and participate in the GPL3.  DonnieBoy | 02/03/06
You managed to get one tiny part right.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
Dude, it is HIS ansd he makes the decision on license.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
No, Linus does not own the kernel, he is one of many contributers.  DonnieBoy | 02/03/06
He "owns" all the important parts, that's all that's needed.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
He still has no right to force his will on everybody else, the whole idea  DonnieBoy | 02/03/06
I don't think he wants the "respect" of useless zealots...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
Oh contrare, it's his, he can use any license he wants.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
Again, for those with an IQ in single digits, Linus does NOT own Linux, or  DonnieBoy | 02/03/06
Good for the community  #_z | 02/03/06
The opinion of Linus Torvalds will matter less every day if he does not  DonnieBoy | 02/03/06
You're absolutely right  Michael Kelly | 02/03/06
Linus is ONLY one of the contributers to the kernel. Yes an important  DonnieBoy | 02/03/06
Someone needs a lesson in what a kernel is  Been_around_the_block | 02/03/06
DonnieBoy has a hard time seeing out his basement window  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
The kernel is NOT the OS. You could install GNOME, X-Windows, and  DonnieBoy | 02/03/06
Re: The kernel is NOT the OS  Michael Kelly | 02/03/06
Oh, so now the OS is the drivers. Linus wrote very few of those too.  DonnieBoy | 02/03/06
DonnieBoy or DinnieBaby???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
Not the owner?  node357 | 02/05/06
As far as if I took the Linux codebase changed it and called it NoAx  hipparchus2001 | 02/05/06
I think you and Stallman should work for free.  osreinstall | 02/03/06
In that case, you would not like the GPL2 or GPL3.  DonnieBoy | 02/03/06
Everyone loves free stuff except the giver when it is mandatory.  osreinstall | 02/03/06
Don't confuse businessmen with wanna be's.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
The guys at RedHat, MySQL, JBoss, SleepyCat, and others are very happy with  DonnieBoy | 02/03/06
Red Hat SELLS Linux you fool.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
RedHat sells support, but they also contribute greatly to the kernel.  DonnieBoy | 02/03/06
I always refer it from the owner's viewpoint.  osreinstall | 02/03/06
I would direct those that don't like the GPL to the BSD kernel.  DonnieBoy | 02/03/06
No one is limiting anything...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
This talkback is about GPL2 vs GPL3, and nobody said  DonnieBoy | 02/03/06
Go read your post again zealot...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
I never felt screwed. But then the ball was in my court.  osreinstall | 02/03/06
Stop beating him with facts, it won't work on a zealot.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
Come'on Ax, I am in a sadistic mood.  osreinstall | 02/03/06
Oh, ok. Ummm, wanna borrow my clue stick?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
No I prefer a Louisville Slugger made of Hickory.  osreinstall | 02/04/06
Re: Everyone loves free stuff except the giver when it is mandatory.  none none | 02/03/06
Yes it is mandatory.  osreinstall | 02/04/06
No he doesen't  Suicida| | 02/06/06
Torvalds is wrong!  Linux Geek | 02/03/06
You go support it, I'll stand here and laugh at you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
Why haven't they done that already?  Michael Kelly | 02/03/06
My perception of Linus T. just went up several notchs.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
You support Linus, don't you?  Grayson Peddie | 02/03/06
Yes and yes...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
RE: Yes and yes...  richdave | 02/03/06
From my perspective.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
From my perspective.  CobraA1 | 02/05/06
my opinion went down  Linux Geek | 02/03/06
As if anyone cares...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
Oops, didn't see your post  NonZealot | 02/03/06
The thought of providing "private"  bjbrock | 02/03/06
A few points  Tony Agudo | 02/03/06
I just gained so much respect for Linus!  NonZealot | 02/03/06
AMEN!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/06
I thought Linus INVENTED Linux? [text inside]  BlazeEagle | 02/03/06
His invention, he doesn't own the copyright to it.  mobrien_12@... | 02/03/06
Torvalds=Bill Gates wanabe  DarthRidiculous | 02/03/06
Linus Torvalds vs. Abraham Lincoln.  Vily Clay | 02/03/06
Are you even listening to yourself?  Michael Kelly | 02/04/06
Yes, you have rights to fight for freedom to be a wolf = for making wars.  Vily Clay | 02/04/06
Hey metaphor man. You are off your meds.  osreinstall | 02/04/06
There is only one freedom in this Universe that is FREE OF CHARGE ? ...  Vily Clay | 02/05/06
You also have the freedom of choice to stay insane Vily.  osreinstall | 02/05/06
If you, ?sane? person, fight for freedom to be screwed ? ...  Vily Clay | 02/05/06
Mankind doesn't need high tech to kill each other.  osreinstall | 02/05/06
Of course not. Sheep can accomplish the process without high-tech. (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/05/06
That made no sense Vily  osreinstall | 02/05/06
osreinstall, back to school and you?ll MAY get it (may not). (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/05/06
You are beyond interpretation Day Room Disciple.  osreinstall | 02/05/06
osreinstall, I know ? nothing can stop your diarrhea of the mouth.  Vily Clay | 02/05/06
The only thing you can help, is yourself to another donut.  osreinstall | 02/05/06
osreinstall, you could of write it shorter ? ...  Vily Clay | 02/05/06
.....  CobraA1 | 02/05/06
You came to the next stage of the discussion ? that?s pretty good.  Vily Clay | 02/05/06
re: next stage of discussion  CobraA1 | 02/06/06
Why are you trying to judge things you do not know (in your first reply)?  Vily Clay | 02/06/06
law of evolution?  Spoon Jabber | 02/06/06
The word, "Theory"  tic swayback | 02/06/06
You're right  Spoon Jabber | 02/06/06
Oops, forgot  Spoon Jabber | 02/06/06
Umm, tic . . .  CobraA1 | 02/06/06
Spoon and Cobra  tic swayback | 02/06/06
Not semantics Tic  Spoon Jabber | 02/06/06
It's got to be testable  tic swayback | 02/06/06
How to test?  Spoon Jabber | 02/06/06
the nature of evidence. . .  CobraA1 | 02/06/06
Thanks OS, are you saying...  Spoon Jabber | 02/06/06
Sorry, above post to Cobra (NT)  Spoon Jabber | 02/06/06
re: spoon  CobraA1 | 02/06/06
Spoon  tic swayback | 02/07/06
That's evidence I'd like to see  tic swayback | 02/07/06
re: That's evidence I'd like to see  CobraA1 | 02/10/06
Any idea why I did not reply on your evolution-denial? (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/13/06
Do you even understand what freedoms are?  B.O.F.H. | 02/05/06
Stallman is way out there  osreinstall | 02/05/06
osreinstakll, stop with the anti-copyright/license rants!  B.O.F.H. | 02/05/06
Quit your complaining  osreinstall | 02/05/06
If you have no money ? NOTHING will protect your invention but the GPL (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/05/06
Sorry Vily, the GPL is adversarial to patents.  osreinstall | 02/05/06
osreinstall, how old are you? (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/05/06
Old enough to know there ain't no free lunch.  osreinstall | 02/05/06
So it is equal to a 5-year-old boy ? that?s what I was suspecting. (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/05/06
Your logic still amazes me.  osreinstall | 02/05/06
It?s because your mind is on the level of a 5-year-old boy. (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/05/06
Insanity is not maturity, Vily  osreinstall | 02/05/06
If you don?t understand FERMA?S THEOREM ? Ferma is a lunatic, right? (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/05/06
Linus can do whatever he wants with his own software  hipparchus2001 | 02/05/06
You are right - Bill Gates & Co can kill Linux by DRM.  Vily Clay | 02/05/06
re:  CobraA1 | 02/06/06
Both elections. Read more about why it was done ...  Vily Clay | 02/06/06
I've heard all that a million times  CobraA1 | 02/06/06
If you believe ? the Earth is rounded, tell me why so? It looks flat. (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/06/06
lol (nt)  CobraA1 | 02/07/06
So why do you believe Bush-makers are not 9/11 mastermind? (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/07/06
So why do you believe Bush-makers are not 9/11 mastermind?  Vily Clay | 02/07/06
Linux and DRM  ditperth@... | 02/06/06
Would pgp-signed security update announcments be banned under GPL 3?  dabruro | 02/04/06
Jesus, let's not all talk at once here!  Jeff Spicoli | 02/04/06
Exactly!!!  Michael Kelly | 02/05/06
The problem is DRM always will be abused. It?s inevitable.  Vily Clay | 02/05/06
If you take away DRM  Michael Kelly | 02/05/06
But if you?ll give the ?right people? the ?right? tools (e.g. DRM) - ...  Vily Clay | 02/05/06
He would have to go after himself!  osreinstall | 02/06/06
If you love DRM ? why won?t you live with handcuffs? Same pleasure. (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/06/06
Vily, I think Nurse Ratchet DRMed you.  osreinstall | 02/06/06
osreinstall, since when you are a handcuff-masochist? (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/06/06
hmm . . .  CobraA1 | 02/05/06
Be careful what you write.  Vily Clay | 02/05/06
re: Be careful what you write.  CobraA1 | 02/06/06
And how this BS is relevant to me? Any details? (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/06/06
If logic is BS, then I have no more to say (NT)  CobraA1 | 02/06/06
If you're trying to use logic in the Middle Ages to nowadays ?it?s BS. (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/06/06
I have no more to say then.  CobraA1 | 02/07/06
You forgot to mention ? you showed no logic/arguments to prove your points.  Vily Clay | 02/07/06
Just because a tool can be abused doesn't mean it has to be abolished.  osreinstall | 02/06/06
Osr-l, what you learn in your kindergarten doesn?t match with reality. (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/06/06
ok  CobraA1 | 02/09/06
Let?s use your own words against you.  Vily Clay | 02/09/06
re: Let's use your own words against you.  CobraA1 | 02/09/06
Your ?logic? ?proves? that White and Black is the same color. (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/13/06
Linus linus, DRM is not just encryption and signing  hipparchus2001 | 02/05/06
Spot on.  mobrien_12@... | 02/05/06
Explanation of what is this DRM on a user-friendly language.  Vily Clay | 02/05/06
My handcuffs came with a key!  Spoon Jabber | 02/06/06
They need to turn people into jail-ready slaves by legal blackmail. (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/06/06
Right, I forgot about soilent green!  Spoon Jabber | 02/06/06
It is quite humorous when psych wards have internet access.  osreinstall | 02/06/06
Wow, masochist-osreinstall believes he is normal. Dream on. (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/06/06
I never thought I was normal. Just more rational than you.  osreinstall | 02/06/06
You proved the first part but you've no logic/arguments to be rational (NT)  Vily Clay | 02/06/06
Spoon Jabber, are you in the same kindergarten with osreinstall?  Vily Clay | 02/06/06
No, I'm only three yrs old  Spoon Jabber | 02/06/06
You judge things you don?t know and upset you are wrong. Logic?  Vily Clay | 02/06/06
Vily, I think you are violating curfew rules.  osreinstall | 02/06/06
For all my critics:  Vily Clay | 02/07/06
Protection vs. Innovation  robapacl@... | 02/08/06
Stop polishing a turd...  MCollier | 04/18/06
polishing a turd...  MCollier | 04/18/06
That's 2 more people working on he GPL3  MCollier | 04/18/06

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