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"What they're trying to show is inadvertent viewing. They don't need to verify the age of people doing the searching. What they want to show, for example, is that someone who does a search on "bambi" would come up with porn."

And they don't need to subpoena actual records to determine whether a search for "bambi" would turn up porn. They could do the same thing you did to determine that so it still makes no sense. And if they want to see how many times a search for "bambi" was conducted it still doesn't tell them whether it was an adult or a minor looking for porn or whether it was an adult or minor that accidentally viewed it. The subpoena is still useless as anything other than a fishing expedition.

""Surveys show that 25% of minors between the ages of 10 and 17 who regularly use the Internet inadvertently viewed pornography in the prior year. Id. at 132-133. Of minors between the ages of 15 and 17, 70% have viewed pornography inadvertently. Id. at 133. The government has a compelling interest in addressing those serious problems.""

And once again they already have those figures if they are accurate from their survey. Since they can't determine the age of the person using the computer in the information they are subpoening the information tells them nothing they can use. Its just a fishing expedition.

""As for the adult id or credit cards: People routinely put their credit card information into all kinds of sites now (Amazon, BestBuy, etc, etc.) It's not that much of a hurdle. Could the government use such information against you? Sure, but they could do the same thing with any personal information.""

Yes but the subject here is porn not ebay or Amazon.

""But in the subpoena we're talking about, no such information is sought.

And no the current survey doesn't ask for that information, that is what they are trying to require people to do, which if they do will make that information available to them.

With the information they're asking for, all they can do is compare search strings to what they turn up. That's it.""

Which has been my point all along, it gives them no additional information such as the age of the person using the computer or their purpose which makes the info useless
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nah  Jeff Spicoli | 01/26/06
give it a rest  Shelendrea | 01/26/06
Wow...  James T. Kirk | 01/26/06
not only that..  Jeff Spicoli | 01/26/06
Shelly, I agree with MOST of your post except....  btljooz | 01/26/06
and what exactly are we resting..  Jeff Spicoli | 01/26/06
I wrote my Senators  Roger Ramjet | 01/26/06
I'm sure it was hand delivered to them!...  Jeff Spicoli | 01/26/06
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Can't Senator Leahy read??  bhartman36 | 01/26/06
testing the waters..  Jeff Spicoli | 01/26/06
False Alarms  bhartman36 | 01/26/06
but there is NO POINT to the subpoena  Jeff Spicoli | 01/26/06
again you're just mad  Shelendrea | 01/26/06
I got all holes covered  Jeff Spicoli | 01/26/06
ROFLMAO  Looneytoon | 01/27/06
The point is COPA, which doesn't depend on identities  bhartman36 | 01/26/06
The point is the info sought is pointless  Looneytoon | 01/27/06
That's *not* what they're looking for...  bhartman36 | 01/27/06
That is what they are looking for Bhartman  Looneytoon | 01/28/06
They're looking for accidental viewings..  bhartman36 | 01/28/06
And how do they determine.........  Looneytoon | 01/28/06
Fishing For What?  bhartman36 | 01/28/06
Now we're getting somewhere  Looneytoon | 01/28/06
Databases  bhartman36 | 01/29/06
One big database  Looneytoon | 01/29/06
GOOD!!! Even IF Leahy is 'grandstanding'...  btljooz | 01/26/06
seriously..  Jeff Spicoli | 01/26/06
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