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"This happens to you and now you cannot sue for a legitimate claim someone did to you for violating your copyright. The GPL states that you cannot sue for any copyright infringement if you use GPL code."

It does not say that. In fact it says that if you do not follow the terms of the GPL or the GPL is found to be invalid then you have commited copyright infringement, unless you made arrangements with every author of the code upstream of you or your use is consistant with fair use, and they can sue you for copyright infringement.

The GPL has Freedom or Death of the program... If you can not distribute derived GPL code under the GPL, then you can not distribute the program period. To do so violates copyright law of every author upstream of you.

If a rouge programer upstream of you mixes code they do not own with GPL code then that code has to be removed and rewritten before it can be distributed. If you distribute with that code then both of you have infringed. The same is true with non-GPL code though. What happens is the reverse of what you propose though- GPL code ends up in propriatary apps- The Sony rootkit contained some of DVD John's GPL code in it- DVD John howver hasn't felt the need to sue Sony and First 4 Internet for violating his copyright- at this time.

Also if you read Stallman's papers- He states clearly that he could care less if businesses adopt GPL software as that is not the primary purpose of the GNU project or the GPL and that there are plenty of other more business freindly licenses.

From a User standpoint it's great because the GPL does not cover Install and Running the software by the end user- specifically becuase those uses are exempted by US copyright law in section 117. You can also use one disk to install multiple copies of the software legally and you can make copies of the software and give it away or charge for it if you think the market will bear a price for the software.
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Wow... that was so good it had to be said twice (nt)  Michael Kelly | 01/19/06
Thanks for saying that.  DemonX | 01/19/06
Wow... that was so good it had to be said twice  barsteward | 01/19/06
What will Linus (the person) do in regard to Linux ?  JJ_z | 01/19/06
Linus doesn't make that choice...  John Le'Brecage | 01/19/06
Yes  Richard Flude | 01/19/06
Relicensing can happen, it'll just take time  FamilyManFirst | 01/19/06
Defender of the GPL  mpmdbt | 01/19/06
the controversial things he says..  mad-man | 01/20/06
one solution does not fit all.  zzz1234567890 | 01/19/06
Very subtle differences  Flubnut | 01/19/06
Actually  CobraA1 | 01/19/06
I think you're right and he's being somewhat decieving  bob2cam | 01/20/06
You have confused the example.  Update victim | 01/20/06
No, not at all.  bob2cam | 01/22/06
He said it all right here.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/19/06
Indeed  CobraA1 | 01/20/06
That's just crazy  spamagnet | 01/20/06
If an idea gets patented, then you have two choices  quietLee | 01/20/06
Or  Update victim | 01/20/06
The question is not *if*, but *should*  CobraA1 | 01/20/06
To expand upon what I said  CobraA1 | 01/23/06
So I can take anything I want form GPLed code..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/20/06
Not everything  Michael Kelly | 01/20/06
Every licensing scheme has its drawbacks.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
Obviously, you can, but  Update victim | 01/20/06
Defender of the GPL and he don't care about other licenses.  osreinstall | 01/19/06
What are you talking about?  rhavyn | 01/19/06
I guess you didn't read the GPL, any version.  osreinstall | 01/19/06
You're still making zero sense  rhavyn | 01/20/06
You make no sense at all.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
Yes, because you don't understand copyright law  rhavyn | 01/20/06
You don't understand Jack.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: You don't understand Jack.  rhavyn | 01/20/06
It is another license, not God.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
You Can't Read  Edward Meyers | 01/19/06
I read it, but the final draft should be different.  osreinstall | 01/19/06
Could you be more wrong?  rhavyn | 01/20/06
You must be in La La land.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
You still can't read  rhavyn | 01/20/06
You still cannot think.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: You still can't read  rhavyn | 01/20/06
You are unable to think.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: You are unable to think.  rhavyn | 01/20/06
You don't see others viewpoint too good.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: You don't see others viewpoint too good.  rhavyn | 01/20/06
Here is more humor you can mull over, FUDster.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: Here is more humor you can mull over, FUDster.  rhavyn | 01/20/06
You deliver FUD in your own way.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: You deliver FUD in your own way.  rhavyn | 01/20/06
You can.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: You can.  rhavyn | 01/20/06
Can't debate with someone who will say anything.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
Trade Secrecy Only Works  Edward Meyers | 01/20/06
We all know how the GPL feels about trade secrets.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
No You Can't  Edward Meyers | 01/20/06
Licenses have to get along.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
To osreinstall  rhavyn | 01/20/06
Back to rhavyn  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: Back to rhavyn  rhavyn | 01/20/06
SCO Is Not Suing IBM For Copyright Infringement  Edward Meyers | 01/20/06
Another one back at you rhavyn  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: SCO Is Not Suing IBM For Copyright Infringement  rhavyn | 01/20/06
RE: Another one back at you rhavyn  rhavyn | 01/20/06
re: SCO Is Not Suing IBM For Copyright Infringement  osreinstall | 01/20/06
You will never convince me of you BS  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: re: SCO Is Not Suing IBM For Copyright Infringement  rhavyn | 01/20/06
RE: You will never convince me of you BS  rhavyn | 01/20/06
What a stupid rebuttal from rhavyn  osreinstall | 01/20/06
Patent != Copyright  Edward Meyers | 01/20/06
RE: What a stupid rebuttal from rhavyn  rhavyn | 01/20/06
re: Patent != Copyright  osreinstall | 01/20/06
I posted the most relevant cases  Edward Meyers | 01/20/06
You are being deceitful rhavyn.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
Not very relevant if you ask me.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
You are being deceitful rhavyn.  rhavyn | 01/20/06
RE: Not very relevant if you ask me.  rhavyn | 01/20/06
You really should tell the truth.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: You really should tell the truth.  rhavyn | 01/20/06
Can't stay on topic too well.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: Can't stay on topic too well.  rhavyn | 01/20/06
Again You Can't Read  Edward Meyers | 01/20/06
Whatever  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: Whatever  rhavyn | 01/20/06
For Meyers  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: For Meyers  rhavyn | 01/20/06
osreinstall, the GPL has been upheld in a court of law already.  B.O.F.H. | 01/20/06
RE: re: whatever  osreinstall | 01/20/06
It sure has BOFH.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: RE: re: whatever  rhavyn | 01/20/06
RE: It sure has BOFH.  rhavyn | 01/20/06
I have for now.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: I have for now.  rhavyn | 01/20/06
Last paragraph says it all.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
Re: For Meyers  Edward Meyers | 01/21/06
You sure went thru some trouble to prove a lot that I didn't dispute.  osreinstall | 01/21/06
EULAs are contracts  Edward Meyers | 01/21/06
Re: EULAs are contracts  osreinstall | 01/21/06
Those Aren't The Only Problems At The USPTO  Edward Meyers | 01/21/06
Yes, there are drawbacks.  osreinstall | 01/22/06
Software Is Different  Edward Meyers | 01/22/06
Software can be many things.  osreinstall | 01/22/06
osreinstall, time to stop whining about licenses!  B.O.F.H. | 01/22/06
Read The Case Law  Edward Meyers | 01/22/06
Creative folks do not fear patents.  osreinstall | 01/22/06
BOFH quit whining about your precious GPL.  osreinstall | 01/22/06
osreinstall, you appear to have a lot of problem!  B.O.F.H. | 01/22/06
BOFH you are full of crap as usual  osreinstall | 01/22/06
Where to start with you....  B.O.F.H. | 01/22/06
Small Developers Do Fear Patents  Edward Meyers | 01/22/06
Put a sock in it. You always twist it around.  osreinstall | 01/22/06
Just the reckless opportunists.  osreinstall | 01/22/06
I've Posted 4 Cases  Edward Meyers | 01/22/06
You posted a lot of stuff.  osreinstall | 01/22/06
Mayers, you are wasting too much time with osreinstall!  B.O.F.H. | 01/22/06
BOFH, you are a reasoning hack.  osreinstall | 01/22/06
The GPL is antagonistic to trade secrets  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: The GPL is antagonistic to trade secrets  rhavyn | 01/20/06
It is. GPL folks despise trade secrets. You keep telling us that fact.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: It is. GPL folks despise trade secrets. You keep telling us that fact.  rhavyn | 01/20/06
Just more jaber jaber from rhavyn  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: Just more jaber jaber from rhavyn  rhavyn | 01/20/06
The thing is, you are not more informed.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
I doubt that your opinion matters much.  B.O.F.H. | 01/20/06
Fat chance of that happening  rhavyn | 01/20/06
You are a fat chance and a liability.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
RE: You are a fat chance and a liability.  rhavyn | 01/20/06
Another one that needs reading lessons.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
I don't have a problem with most of it.  osreinstall | 01/20/06
GPL means Freedom  wildranger | 01/21/06
Or perhaps  Update victim | 01/20/06
I don't see anything about TiVo  krehbiel | 01/19/06
I too didn't see anything about TiVo  Too Old For IT | 01/20/06
are you blind?  lwparrish | 01/20/06
It should be more than the GPL ...  Vily Clay | 01/20/06
All Software Should be Free, Period  wildranger | 01/21/06

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