Finally...some common sense
bob2cam | 12/13/05
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Office 12
jinko | 12/13/05
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IBM trying to block it, Gee, I wonder why?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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tombalablomba | 12/13/05
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Huh???
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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You have it backwards...
Linux User 147560 | 12/13/05
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Why would anyone want a 3% solution?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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Is the check from Redmond late this month, Axey?
Judas I. | 12/13/05
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Judas I. | 12/13/05
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Must suck to be such a lousy Windows Admin
Confused by religion | 12/13/05
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Confused by religion | 12/13/05
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Confused by religion | 12/13/05
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Hey, Milly, must suck to not know anything about ...
Judas I. | 12/13/05
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Judas I. | 12/13/05
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Can't get WHICH job done?
DarrellM | 12/13/05
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This job...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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No_Ax, what kind of scam are you
jacarter3 | 12/13/05
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Linux could never deliver if MS was banned.
osreinstall | 12/13/05
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Your out of your mind
IceTheNet@... | 12/13/05
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Legacy
jknight_z | 12/13/05
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Takes a little more than some technical ability.
osreinstall | 12/13/05
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Legacy apps
nomorems | 12/13/05
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WinXP was the one with trouble with legacy apps.
osreinstall | 12/13/05
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Cost
jknight_z | 12/13/05
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You guys manufacture problems.
osreinstall | 12/13/05
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Linux could never deliver if MS was banned.
osreinstall | 12/13/05
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ZDNet javascript should be banned.
osreinstall | 12/13/05
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I second that motion
IceTheNet@... | 12/13/05
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IceTheNet@... | 12/13/05
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I know what you mean, osreinstall.
Judas I. | 12/13/05
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Judas I. | 12/13/05
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The problem with that view ...
Judas I. | 12/13/05
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Banning closed formats is restaint of trade
osreinstall | 12/13/05
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I don't understand how that could be restraint of trade,
Judas I. | 12/13/05
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I think that is why they are looking at MS's implementation.
osreinstall | 12/13/05
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your so very wrong
IceTheNet@... | 12/13/05
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Ice, they are supporting it their way.
osreinstall | 12/13/05
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No, no, os.
Judas I. | 12/13/05
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Conspiracy appeals to those that have very little insight.
osreinstall | 12/13/05
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Didn't answer my question, os:
Judas I. | 12/13/05
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No problem OB
osreinstall | 12/13/05
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But that doesn't explain why all those other guys,
Judas I. | 12/14/05
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Sure it does
osreinstall | 12/14/05
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And how can OSS "focus on their own tech" when ...
Judas I. | 12/14/05
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You compete by offering better deals
osreinstall | 12/14/05
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In order to compete, you have to get onto the playing field.
Judas I. | 12/14/05
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Only the retail customer viewpoint matters.
osreinstall | 12/14/05
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os, hey, when I went shopping for my first VCR ...
Judas I. | 12/14/05
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I see you are still blaming the others.
osreinstall | 12/14/05
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Oh, osreinstall, have mercy!
Judas I. | 12/14/05
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I have my moments.
osreinstall | 12/14/05
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Reading can be difficult
tombalablomba | 12/13/05
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Perhaps you missed this bit
Chad_z | 12/13/05
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XML is as generic as it gets.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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The problem is, do we have any guarantee MS will NOT extend the standard???
DonnieBoy | 12/13/05
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Of course it WILL be expanded.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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so-called standards...
jbroche18 | 12/13/05
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Sure there are specific uses for a standard, but not most.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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Yes, but will all of the extensions be ADDED to the standard, or will they
DonnieBoy | 12/14/05
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Who owns the patenrts and copyrights? If M$, then it is M$ proprietary. NT
Update victim | 12/13/05
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Who do you think owned the ODF proposal?
osreinstall | 12/13/05
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Sun is giving a non-revocable guarantee that it will never
DonnieBoy | 12/13/05
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Sun is giving a non-revocable guarantee that it will never
DonnieBoy | 12/13/05
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The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away.
osreinstall | 12/13/05
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Yes, you so eloquently describe what MS has done. And, we need to watch Sun
DonnieBoy | 12/13/05
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They why
nomorems | 12/13/05
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I can't speak for Ax but I never said that.
osreinstall | 12/13/05
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osreinstall is a moron.
talisman | 12/14/05
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I think talisman doesn't think at all.
osreinstall | 12/14/05
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MS is a monopoly because they are smarter.
osreinstall | 12/13/05
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Sorry, but Microsoft is NOT a standard for anything but itself...
wildranger | 12/14/05
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It is about the license!
TomM_z | 12/13/05
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Umm..
hawkeyeaz1 | 12/13/05
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hawkeyeaz1 | 12/13/05
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XML
nomorems | 12/13/05
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EXACTLY RIGHT ON, my friend!
wildranger | 12/14/05
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Rubber stamp.
Robert Crocker | 12/13/05
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Yeah but in the end
Michael Kelly | 12/13/05
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Meaningless to me. I've never had a problem.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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We also want to open them from OpenOffice, KOffice, etc, no formatting
DonnieBoy | 12/13/05
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No problem, all you need do is follow the rules
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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Not so fast, we also need a guarantee that MS will not add proprietary, un-
DonnieBoy | 12/13/05
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As long as the GPL is NOT involved
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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The MS proposal even fails with BSD and MIT licenses
DonnieBoy | 12/13/05
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Why the almost rabid hatred for software developers?
B.O.F.H. | 12/13/05
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Any code covered by the GPL is useless for any for profit.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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Red Hat is doing just fine selling support and service for GPLed software.
DonnieBoy | 12/14/05
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The GPL stops people stealing code and then selling it as their own
Zogg | 12/15/05
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As long as the GPL is NOT involved
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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Re: We also want to open them from OpenOffice, KOffice, etc, no formatting
richdave | 12/13/05
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Yep, with a real standard like ODF, that is all possible.
DonnieBoy | 12/13/05
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Pathological
Roger Ramjet | 12/13/05
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Yes, I like using the BEST Office suite out there.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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Not sure yet
Roger Ramjet | 12/13/05
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Framemaker?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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I know I do
nomorems | 12/13/05
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I am using the Best Open Office
TomM_z | 12/13/05
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That's OK for 10 years, but what about 25? 50? 100?
mikepinter@... | 12/13/05
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What's to worry abpout?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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All you've done is replace on problem with another.
mikepinter@... | 12/14/05
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mikepinter@... | 12/13/05
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Never had a problem in 10 years? How about 25? 50? 100?
mikepinter@... | 12/13/05
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Narrow thinking
Michael Kelly | 12/13/05
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Office document formats are NOT rocket science. They just need to be fully
DonnieBoy | 12/13/05
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Block it
graphx | 12/13/05
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Just a wild guess
Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/13/05
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Where are the editors?
Robert Crocker | 12/13/05
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"How did THIS get through:"
JustAMuggle | 12/13/05
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Um, because it's false...
John Le'Brecage | 12/13/05
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A few corrections
java.user | 12/13/05
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Kwrite and Abiword...
John Le'Brecage | 12/13/05
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A few further corrections
java.user | 12/13/05
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Let's examine this further...
John Le'Brecage | 12/13/05
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Let's examine this further (links corrected, I hope)
John Le'Brecage | 12/13/05
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re: Yet more corrections for Msr. Le'Brecage
java.user | 12/14/05
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I'd much prefer to be fishing.
John Le'Brecage | 12/14/05
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Something is definitely fishy =P
java.user | 12/14/05
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A probable parting request... and probable final answer
John Le'Brecage | 12/14/05
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Italic corrected version of previous.
John Le'Brecage | 12/14/05
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re: Msr Le'Brecage
java.user | 12/15/05
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Your equivocation is transparent java.user
John Le'Brecage | 12/15/05
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Again, corrected for italics.
John Le'Brecage | 12/15/05
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Yet more for Msr. Le'Brecage
java.user | 12/15/05
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Oh! One more thing Msr. Le'Brecage
java.user | 12/15/05
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You guys are so funny!; Issue solved.
Cayble | 12/16/05
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If this fails MS will bundle
tero_t_vaananen@... | 12/13/05
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Never going to happen...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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Bundle... go for it.. they are loosing the battle
graphx | 12/13/05
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Office bundled with Windows?
alan.m@... | 12/19/05
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well what the hell ibm wait for
toxicfreak | 12/13/05
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re: remember OS/2
JustAMuggle | 12/13/05
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if its not ibm thenn
toxicfreak | 12/13/05
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I do. It was and still is a great operating system.
Update victim | 12/13/05
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DarrellM | 12/13/05
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Not a new TLA
DarrellM | 12/13/05
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IBM didn't invent the pc.
Anton Philidor | 12/13/05
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Office outputs.
Anton Philidor | 12/13/05
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Sorry, Anton, but Office is better engineered than that!
John Le'Brecage | 12/13/05
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Making assumptions about product design.
Anton Philidor | 12/13/05
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This might be too harsh.
John Le'Brecage | 12/13/05
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This might be too harsh. (and of course i missed a closure, sorry)
John Le'Brecage | 12/13/05
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This might be too harsh. (one more time! Augh!)
John Le'Brecage | 12/13/05
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Different words, same meaning.
Anton Philidor | 12/14/05
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Never...
John Le'Brecage | 12/14/05
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Competence
Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/14/05
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Rep and I are in heaven...
Mike Cox | 12/13/05
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Good one
Darkgeek | 12/13/05
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Darkgeek | 12/13/05
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Darkgeek | 12/13/05
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Spinning Tires in Neutral
duclod | 12/13/05
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Mike Cox | 12/13/05
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Rep and I are in heaven...
Mike Cox | 12/13/05
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Re: Rep and I are in heaven...
BXLE | 12/13/05
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Heaven - Ironic use of words
Geotopia | 12/13/05
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Check your facts
techboy_z | 12/13/05
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More accurate history than most, though...
Anton Philidor | 12/13/05
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History and Need
mighetto | 12/13/05
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2.5
java.user | 12/13/05
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Confused by religion | 12/13/05
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Hear, Hear!
Roger Ramjet | 12/13/05
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Hey Milly
nomorems | 12/13/05
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I already use a Mac and Linux
Confused by religion | 12/13/05
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Why would they want to?
Michael Kelly | 12/13/05
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Where technology meets business.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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Yeah, but every add works!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/13/05
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mitigating your risk...
John Le'Brecage | 12/13/05
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Clarifying...
John Le'Brecage | 12/13/05
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Ha ha ha!
jolumoar | 12/13/05
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jolumoar | 12/13/05
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jolumoar | 12/13/05
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ECMA
Roger Huffadine | 12/13/05
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A self-inflicted injury
code_flogger | 12/13/05
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Divorce, rubber stamp, naked request, sexy words for MS exploits
educateme@... | 12/13/05
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Any standard is a good standard
eheimer | 12/13/05
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Hold on. All must be able to read and write. We need a guarantee that MS
DonnieBoy | 12/13/05
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Spinning Tires in Neutral is not Possible
duclod | 12/13/05
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Standards?
ggallman_z | 12/13/05
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When WordPerfect has a version for Linux, and it reads and writes ODF,
DonnieBoy | 12/13/05
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Microsoft Office Open XML is *not* in wide use
jdeisenberg | 12/13/05
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Substance or marketing?
George Mitchell | 12/13/05
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It's difficult to divorce the file format from the product
DarrellM | 12/13/05
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Wake up! Please!!
bportlock | 12/13/05
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He's right
techboy_z | 12/14/05
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Who he? Mr Clueless?
Fred Fredrickson | 12/14/05
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Spyware
Leila_z | 12/13/05
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Spyware software
dimwit44890@... | 12/14/05
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Corporate Hegemony
jimc52@... | 12/14/05
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microsoft can only get better
jesus_of_suburbia344 | 12/14/05
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microsoft can only get better part 2
jesus_of_suburbia344 | 12/14/05
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Any and all software and operating systems
dimwit44890@... | 12/14/05
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Any and all software and operating systems
dimwit44890@... | 12/14/05
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Free from legal enumberances? NOT FOR LONG
eriklikeszdnet | 12/18/05
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Free from legal enumberances? NOT FOR LONG
eriklikeszdnet | 12/18/05
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My apologies for multiple posts
eriklikeszdnet | 12/18/05
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Free of legal encumberances? NOT FOR LONG!
eriklikeszdnet | 12/18/05
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