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Chris, that was the point.
Security and privacy are diametrically opposed and all we can do is *try* to balance the two. By the way, I'm sorry you were unable to make your point without crawling in the insult gutter.
Posted by: No_Ax_to_Grind   Posted on: 01/26/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Whoa, bad idea  el1jones | 01/26/04
One way or another, not both  doctormoriarty | 01/26/04
Clueless!  DarbyOhara | 01/26/04
hunting down non-ID card people  pschroeder@... | 01/26/04
hmm  JWatson77 | 01/26/04
What About Anonymous Political Speech  Repeal | 01/26/04
Great points Repeal.  Tim Patterson | 01/26/04
That's NOT proteced & never was  j.m.galvin | 01/26/04
Some people will never understand.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Thanks Declan...  Tim Patterson | 01/26/04
Even Worse  j.m.galvin | 01/26/04
The automated Gestapo  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Acually  j.m.galvin | 01/26/04
Statism  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
wow  biophile6 | 01/26/04
Confusion  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Hmm, so speed limits are bad?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Yep, speed limits are bad.  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Good Post Chris  SloooeShflu | 01/26/04
Fortunately for us, it will never happen.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Ignores data  VW_Feature | 01/26/04
the problem with speed limits  wizard_of_oz | 01/28/04
To paraphrase Forrest Gump. . ..  salgak@... | 01/26/04
Vee Haff Your Number . . .  gafisher@... | 01/26/04
Smartcards are a dumb idea.  Tammee | 01/26/04
And you suggest what?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Well, what do YOU suggest??  SloooeShflu | 01/26/04
Here's one, stop ranting and start thinking.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
I sugest ...  Tammee | 01/26/04
"smart" technology...  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Your suggestion then is do nothing???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
You got it, Ax -- do nothing.  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Ok, you do nothing, others will do "something".  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
doing nothing  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
'smart ID' plan  nite_w0lf | 01/26/04
Political types no better than you and me.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Must have hit a nerve!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Nerves  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Chris, that was the point.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Apologies  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Biodata is OK for this  biophile6 | 01/26/04
Joe Trippi worked for Wave  dham340 | 01/26/04
oh right  biophile6 | 01/26/04
Gee, what a surprise. . . .  salgak@... | 01/26/04
So then, what do you suggest as a solution?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
I Don't. I also don't see the problem this solves. . . .  salgak@... | 01/26/04
Free has many meanings.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Ah, yes. The Terrorist Argument. . .  salgak@... | 01/26/04
It's not an argument, its a fact.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
I'm not sniping. . .  salgak@... | 01/26/04
Okay, here's a suggestion...  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Obviously you didn't lose anyone in 9/11  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Actually, I did. . . .  salgak@... | 01/26/04
9/11  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Suggestions...  noShut_z | 01/26/04
I agree, it needs to be discussed by all.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
I dont think you would like the answer Ax  nite_w0lf | 01/26/04
Vocal civil libertarian, Alan Dershowitz supports  Jose Jimenez | 01/26/04
ID card idea  quantumvista | 01/26/04
yeah, right  rpmyers1 | 01/28/04
Disjointed subsets  Robert Crocker | 01/26/04
I agree with you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Not sure there IS a right way  Robert Crocker | 01/26/04
Try this one.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Interesting but flawed view!  B.O.F.H. | 01/26/04
Hrmmmm  Robert Crocker | 01/27/04
I think this got SPUN a bit  skullaria | 01/26/04
Proof?  acetroubleshooter | 02/04/04
bad good  nograin | 01/26/04
Combine Dean with MSFT's "Palladium"  andrewp111 | 01/26/04
Typical biased media attack What objectivity?  VW_Feature | 01/26/04
Touching post  Chris Moller | 01/27/04
Let's not forget states rights.  IHaveSomethingToSay | 01/27/04
Don't beleive it independent confirmation needed  cpratt@... | 01/27/04
An excellent piece of hack work  rakdaddy | 01/27/04
Where's the Proof? Traditional Smear Tactic.  paultopia | 01/27/04
found the transcript!  paultopia | 01/27/04
This is plain distortion! Dean supports privacy.  zestyping | 01/27/04
Here's the Source; This author should read it too  earthwrk@... | 01/28/04
Unfair to Dean, again.  Cyberoid | 01/29/04
Opt in and useful  eidola | 01/30/04
'Smart ID' a Smart Idea  drewnri | 01/30/04
Privacy is an illusion  illusion_z | 01/31/04
under this plan, Linux would be made illegal  wvoutlaw2002 | 07/05/05

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