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The other evident common factor seems to be the philosophy that not only are the interests of individuals properly subordinate to those of the state, but that the wisdom of individuals is invariably inferior -- by definition, if not in fact -- to that of the state. The former gives rise to such travesties as the Patriot Act, the latter to such travesties as "speech codes." Both of these philosophies have at their roots a fundamental institutional contempt for individuals.

Either of these self-serving government philosophies is bad enough alone, but in combination are the stuff of rebellion -- either practice alone doesn't seem to offend a large enough subset of a "typical" population to reach a "critical mass" of discontent, but the union of those subsets may be sufficient.

As to your "liberal - help the little guy" comment, it looks to me like in the 20th century examples you cite, the "liberal" philosophy was more a cynical ploy to achieve popular support than any honest desire to help anyone. I'm not suggesting that's invariably the case -- I'm sure a lot of the "help the little guy" people are sincere -- but as far as I'm concerned the potential for abuse to great to ignore.
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Whoa, bad idea  el1jones | 01/26/04
One way or another, not both  doctormoriarty | 01/26/04
Clueless!  DarbyOhara | 01/26/04
hunting down non-ID card people  pschroeder@... | 01/26/04
hmm  JWatson77 | 01/26/04
What About Anonymous Political Speech  Repeal | 01/26/04
Great points Repeal.  Tim Patterson | 01/26/04
That's NOT proteced & never was  j.m.galvin | 01/26/04
Some people will never understand.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Thanks Declan...  Tim Patterson | 01/26/04
Even Worse  j.m.galvin | 01/26/04
The automated Gestapo  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Acually  j.m.galvin | 01/26/04
Statism  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
wow  biophile6 | 01/26/04
Confusion  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Hmm, so speed limits are bad?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Yep, speed limits are bad.  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Good Post Chris  SloooeShflu | 01/26/04
Fortunately for us, it will never happen.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Ignores data  VW_Feature | 01/26/04
the problem with speed limits  wizard_of_oz | 01/28/04
To paraphrase Forrest Gump. . ..  salgak@... | 01/26/04
Vee Haff Your Number . . .  gafisher@... | 01/26/04
Smartcards are a dumb idea.  Tammee | 01/26/04
And you suggest what?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Well, what do YOU suggest??  SloooeShflu | 01/26/04
Here's one, stop ranting and start thinking.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
I sugest ...  Tammee | 01/26/04
"smart" technology...  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Your suggestion then is do nothing???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
You got it, Ax -- do nothing.  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Ok, you do nothing, others will do "something".  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
doing nothing  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
'smart ID' plan  nite_w0lf | 01/26/04
Political types no better than you and me.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Must have hit a nerve!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Nerves  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Chris, that was the point.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Apologies  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Biodata is OK for this  biophile6 | 01/26/04
Joe Trippi worked for Wave  dham340 | 01/26/04
oh right  biophile6 | 01/26/04
Gee, what a surprise. . . .  salgak@... | 01/26/04
So then, what do you suggest as a solution?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
I Don't. I also don't see the problem this solves. . . .  salgak@... | 01/26/04
Free has many meanings.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Ah, yes. The Terrorist Argument. . .  salgak@... | 01/26/04
It's not an argument, its a fact.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
I'm not sniping. . .  salgak@... | 01/26/04
Okay, here's a suggestion...  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Obviously you didn't lose anyone in 9/11  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Actually, I did. . . .  salgak@... | 01/26/04
9/11  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Suggestions...  noShut_z | 01/26/04
I agree, it needs to be discussed by all.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
I dont think you would like the answer Ax  nite_w0lf | 01/26/04
Vocal civil libertarian, Alan Dershowitz supports  Jose Jimenez | 01/26/04
ID card idea  quantumvista | 01/26/04
yeah, right  rpmyers1 | 01/28/04
Disjointed subsets  Robert Crocker | 01/26/04
I agree with you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Not sure there IS a right way  Robert Crocker | 01/26/04
Try this one.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Interesting but flawed view!  B.O.F.H. | 01/26/04
Hrmmmm  Robert Crocker | 01/27/04
I think this got SPUN a bit  skullaria | 01/26/04
Proof?  acetroubleshooter | 02/04/04
bad good  nograin | 01/26/04
Combine Dean with MSFT's "Palladium"  andrewp111 | 01/26/04
Typical biased media attack What objectivity?  VW_Feature | 01/26/04
Touching post  Chris Moller | 01/27/04
Let's not forget states rights.  IHaveSomethingToSay | 01/27/04
Don't beleive it independent confirmation needed  cpratt@... | 01/27/04
An excellent piece of hack work  rakdaddy | 01/27/04
Where's the Proof? Traditional Smear Tactic.  paultopia | 01/27/04
found the transcript!  paultopia | 01/27/04
This is plain distortion! Dean supports privacy.  zestyping | 01/27/04
Here's the Source; This author should read it too  earthwrk@... | 01/28/04
Unfair to Dean, again.  Cyberoid | 01/29/04
Opt in and useful  eidola | 01/30/04
'Smart ID' a Smart Idea  drewnri | 01/30/04
Privacy is an illusion  illusion_z | 01/31/04
under this plan, Linux would be made illegal  wvoutlaw2002 | 07/05/05

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