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Political types no better than you and me.
Yes it's lots of fun poking fun at the candidates as they try to get their arms around the future of technology, but are they any different than Joe Average on the street? For that matter, I see no "solutions" to vexing problems offered by those that are supposed to be in the know.

Lets face it, anyone with a decent computer, printer, and scanner can duplicate any paper/photo ID out there, at least good enough to fool all best the best trained observers. The problems of identity theft are very real and growing at a frightening rate. And people demand that "the government" do *something* about it. People demand that we control our borders, they demand that terrorists are never able to board a plane, they demand that illegal aliens be allowed to work in the US but not to carry a drivers license. In fact the list of demands seems to get quite long...

But in the same breath everyone says they hate the idea of a better and harder to duplicate personal ID system. I happen to be one of them. You see, I happen to be old enough to remember when getting stopped by a cop without your draft card on you opened up a big can-o-worms and have no desire to see it again.

Obviously the answer is some sort of balance between the publics need for security and the persons need for privacy. So far, none of the scales I've seen offered up manages to do either...
Posted by: No_Ax_to_Grind   Posted on: 01/26/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Whoa, bad idea  el1jones | 01/26/04
One way or another, not both  doctormoriarty | 01/26/04
Clueless!  DarbyOhara | 01/26/04
hunting down non-ID card people  pschroeder@... | 01/26/04
hmm  JWatson77 | 01/26/04
What About Anonymous Political Speech  Repeal | 01/26/04
Great points Repeal.  Tim Patterson | 01/26/04
That's NOT proteced & never was  j.m.galvin | 01/26/04
Some people will never understand.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Thanks Declan...  Tim Patterson | 01/26/04
Even Worse  j.m.galvin | 01/26/04
The automated Gestapo  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Acually  j.m.galvin | 01/26/04
Statism  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
wow  biophile6 | 01/26/04
Confusion  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Hmm, so speed limits are bad?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Yep, speed limits are bad.  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Good Post Chris  SloooeShflu | 01/26/04
Fortunately for us, it will never happen.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Ignores data  VW_Feature | 01/26/04
the problem with speed limits  wizard_of_oz | 01/28/04
To paraphrase Forrest Gump. . ..  salgak@... | 01/26/04
Vee Haff Your Number . . .  gafisher@... | 01/26/04
Smartcards are a dumb idea.  Tammee | 01/26/04
And you suggest what?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Well, what do YOU suggest??  SloooeShflu | 01/26/04
Here's one, stop ranting and start thinking.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
I sugest ...  Tammee | 01/26/04
"smart" technology...  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Your suggestion then is do nothing???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
You got it, Ax -- do nothing.  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Ok, you do nothing, others will do "something".  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
doing nothing  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
'smart ID' plan  nite_w0lf | 01/26/04
Political types no better than you and me.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Must have hit a nerve!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Nerves  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Chris, that was the point.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Apologies  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Biodata is OK for this  biophile6 | 01/26/04
Joe Trippi worked for Wave  dham340 | 01/26/04
oh right  biophile6 | 01/26/04
Gee, what a surprise. . . .  salgak@... | 01/26/04
So then, what do you suggest as a solution?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
I Don't. I also don't see the problem this solves. . . .  salgak@... | 01/26/04
Free has many meanings.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Ah, yes. The Terrorist Argument. . .  salgak@... | 01/26/04
It's not an argument, its a fact.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
I'm not sniping. . .  salgak@... | 01/26/04
Okay, here's a suggestion...  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Obviously you didn't lose anyone in 9/11  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Actually, I did. . . .  salgak@... | 01/26/04
9/11  Chris Moller | 01/26/04
Suggestions...  noShut_z | 01/26/04
I agree, it needs to be discussed by all.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
I dont think you would like the answer Ax  nite_w0lf | 01/26/04
Vocal civil libertarian, Alan Dershowitz supports  Jose Jimenez | 01/26/04
ID card idea  quantumvista | 01/26/04
yeah, right  rpmyers1 | 01/28/04
Disjointed subsets  Robert Crocker | 01/26/04
I agree with you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Not sure there IS a right way  Robert Crocker | 01/26/04
Try this one.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04
Interesting but flawed view!  B.O.F.H. | 01/26/04
Hrmmmm  Robert Crocker | 01/27/04
I think this got SPUN a bit  skullaria | 01/26/04
Proof?  acetroubleshooter | 02/04/04
bad good  nograin | 01/26/04
Combine Dean with MSFT's "Palladium"  andrewp111 | 01/26/04
Typical biased media attack What objectivity?  VW_Feature | 01/26/04
Touching post  Chris Moller | 01/27/04
Let's not forget states rights.  IHaveSomethingToSay | 01/27/04
Don't beleive it independent confirmation needed  cpratt@... | 01/27/04
An excellent piece of hack work  rakdaddy | 01/27/04
Where's the Proof? Traditional Smear Tactic.  paultopia | 01/27/04
found the transcript!  paultopia | 01/27/04
This is plain distortion! Dean supports privacy.  zestyping | 01/27/04
Here's the Source; This author should read it too  earthwrk@... | 01/28/04
Unfair to Dean, again.  Cyberoid | 01/29/04
Opt in and useful  eidola | 01/30/04
'Smart ID' a Smart Idea  drewnri | 01/30/04
Privacy is an illusion  illusion_z | 01/31/04
under this plan, Linux would be made illegal  wvoutlaw2002 | 07/05/05

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