Howard Dean's 'smart' ID plan

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Acually: You said "And this is a _Democrat_ proposing this! I
wonder what the Patriot Act supporters would do. Plant
RFID tags in everyone's skulls?"

The greatest tyranical regimes of the 20 century were
all "liberal - help the little guy". We all know of the
many communist regimes, but forget that NAZI stood
for Natioanl Socialist Party. Our most recent well
known tyranny was the Bath party of Saddam Hussein
in Iraq, a pan Arab Socialist political movement - which
also rules Syria.

The greatest threats to basic freedom in the US today
come from the liberal side. The most egregious has
been the impositon of "speech codes" at various
colleges - in the name of not "offending" others.

Another grave threat - in our judicial system - comes in
the area of sex crimes (invariably the defendant is
male). The name of the accuser is left anonymous.
Their past cannot be brought up by the defense. This,
in the absence of hard evidence, invariably turns into a
"he said - she said" and most often ends up in a
conviction. Many, many innocent men have now been
released from prisons after it was found that DNA
evidence (not available when they were convicted)
exonerated them. All of this goes against the
constitutional right to confront one's accuser.; Posted by: j.m.galvin Posted on: 01/26/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Whoa, bad idea el1jones | 01/26/04

One way or another, not both doctormoriarty | 01/26/04

Clueless! DarbyOhara | 01/26/04

hunting down non-ID card people pschroeder@... | 01/26/04

hmm JWatson77 | 01/26/04

What About Anonymous Political Speech Repeal | 01/26/04

Great points Repeal. Tim Patterson | 01/26/04

That's NOT proteced & never was j.m.galvin | 01/26/04

Some people will never understand. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04

Thanks Declan... Tim Patterson | 01/26/04

Even Worse j.m.galvin | 01/26/04

The automated Gestapo Chris Moller | 01/26/04

Acually j.m.galvin | 01/26/04

Statism Chris Moller | 01/26/04

wow biophile6 | 01/26/04

Confusion Chris Moller | 01/26/04

Hmm, so speed limits are bad? No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04

Yep, speed limits are bad. Chris Moller | 01/26/04

Good Post Chris SloooeShflu | 01/26/04

Fortunately for us, it will never happen. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04

Ignores data VW_Feature | 01/26/04

the problem with speed limits wizard_of_oz | 01/28/04

To paraphrase Forrest Gump. . .. salgak@... | 01/26/04

Vee Haff Your Number . . . gafisher@... | 01/26/04

Smartcards are a dumb idea. Tammee | 01/26/04

And you suggest what? No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04

Well, what do YOU suggest?? SloooeShflu | 01/26/04

Here's one, stop ranting and start thinking. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04

I sugest ... Tammee | 01/26/04

"smart" technology... Chris Moller | 01/26/04

Your suggestion then is do nothing??? No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04

You got it, Ax -- do nothing. Chris Moller | 01/26/04

Ok, you do nothing, others will do "something". No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04

doing nothing Chris Moller | 01/26/04

'smart ID' plan nite_w0lf | 01/26/04

Political types no better than you and me. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04

Must have hit a nerve!!! No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04

Nerves Chris Moller | 01/26/04

Chris, that was the point. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04

Apologies Chris Moller | 01/26/04

Biodata is OK for this biophile6 | 01/26/04

Joe Trippi worked for Wave dham340 | 01/26/04

oh right biophile6 | 01/26/04

Gee, what a surprise. . . . salgak@... | 01/26/04

So then, what do you suggest as a solution? No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04

I Don't. I also don't see the problem this solves. . . . salgak@... | 01/26/04

Free has many meanings. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04

Ah, yes. The Terrorist Argument. . . salgak@... | 01/26/04

It's not an argument, its a fact. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04

I'm not sniping. . . salgak@... | 01/26/04

Okay, here's a suggestion... Chris Moller | 01/26/04

Obviously you didn't lose anyone in 9/11 No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04

Actually, I did. . . . salgak@... | 01/26/04

9/11 Chris Moller | 01/26/04

Suggestions... noShut_z | 01/26/04

I agree, it needs to be discussed by all. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04

I dont think you would like the answer Ax nite_w0lf | 01/26/04

Vocal civil libertarian, Alan Dershowitz supports Jose Jimenez | 01/26/04

ID card idea quantumvista | 01/26/04

yeah, right rpmyers1 | 01/28/04

Disjointed subsets Robert Crocker | 01/26/04

I agree with you. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04

Not sure there IS a right way Robert Crocker | 01/26/04

Try this one. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/04

Interesting but flawed view! B.O.F.H. | 01/26/04

Hrmmmm Robert Crocker | 01/27/04

I think this got SPUN a bit skullaria | 01/26/04

Proof? acetroubleshooter | 02/04/04

bad good nograin | 01/26/04

Combine Dean with MSFT's "Palladium" andrewp111 | 01/26/04

Typical biased media attack What objectivity? VW_Feature | 01/26/04

Touching post Chris Moller | 01/27/04

Let's not forget states rights. IHaveSomethingToSay | 01/27/04

Don't beleive it independent confirmation needed cpratt@... | 01/27/04

An excellent piece of hack work rakdaddy | 01/27/04

Where's the Proof? Traditional Smear Tactic. paultopia | 01/27/04

found the transcript! paultopia | 01/27/04

This is plain distortion! Dean supports privacy. zestyping | 01/27/04

Here's the Source; This author should read it too earthwrk@... | 01/28/04

Unfair to Dean, again. Cyberoid | 01/29/04

Opt in and useful eidola | 01/30/04

'Smart ID' a Smart Idea drewnri | 01/30/04

Privacy is an illusion illusion_z | 01/31/04

under this plan, Linux would be made illegal wvoutlaw2002 | 07/05/05

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