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Wow! You really DON'T know anything, do you?: Those same labor forces that look so cheap and attractive now will come around to bite the opportunists in the ass. Right now, they have NO social infrastructure, NO onerous tax burdens, and NO regulatory boondoggles to deal with...not to mention no union hassles.

Once they've inherited the WHOLE 'American Dream', the tune they now sing will start to change....and the price will go up.

As for offshore code being of higher quality than home-grown, get a clue! The reason offshore only makes sense so long as it can be had for 10? on the dollar is because the OTHER 90? is still being spent on cleaning up and/or correcting that offshore product...This clean-up is still being done by AMERICAN workers.

In the near term future, this shortfall of expertise will be further exacerbated by the instituting of 'web standards'. This is already a requirement of some state's software contract guidelines. How will Bangalore contend with the requirements of Utah vs. the requirements of Calif. for web standard compliance? To put it bluntly, they won't.

If workers in Bangalore wish to enter the IT market, let them build the industry, and the economy within their OWN countries, instead of trying to skim the cream off the top of OURS. THAT is the only sure path to 'global prosperity'...otherwise, it's just a shell game, playing 'hide the pea', with Poverty being the pea that gets shuffled around from place to place, but never truly vanquished.; Posted by: cyberian_z Posted on: 01/20/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Finally.. a clever, insightful look, rather than hyperventilating! rcleetus@... | 01/20/04

ignorance or hidden agenda? dg mh | 01/20/04

Good job IT_User | 01/20/04

Twenty years ago, they pontificated... rbethell | 01/20/04

I hope your job gets outsourced jpokorny42@... | 01/20/04

He lives in Switzerland Chad_z | 01/20/04

And that matters...how? John Carroll

| 01/20/04

Once again, you demonstrate your lack of vision cyberian_z | 01/20/04

Yes, it's so much better letting politicians... John Carroll

| 01/20/04

Yes, it's so much better letting politicians... John Carroll

| 01/20/04

If you REALLY believe this... SloooeShflu | 01/21/04

And that matters...how? pcjunkie48 | 01/21/04

It matters - Oh, it matters bgoss@... | 01/22/04

Irrelevant Fred Fredrickson | 01/26/04

That's Scary blugoose | 01/21/04

That's Scary pcjunkie48 | 01/21/04

Global won't be happy til Uncle Sam lives in a shack Bear_z | 01/23/04

That works both ways Chad_z | 01/20/04

Excellent points! No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/20/04

way to much credit JWatson77 | 01/20/04

John Carrol's entire argument is... John Le'Brecage | 01/20/04

You are right, Suck It Up sums it up nicely. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/20/04

The situation is also the same in many parts of Europe! B.O.F.H. | 01/20/04

No. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/20/04

You are in a global economy, get a clue! B.O.F.H. | 01/20/04

So you think I should be in charge of Europe? COOL! No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/20/04

I think you are bitter 'cuz you don't have a job! B.O.F.H. | 01/20/04

You "think"? BUwahahahahaha No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/20/04

Wow! You really DON'T know anything, do you? cyberian_z | 01/20/04

I think you are bitter 'cuz you don't have a job! pcjunkie48 | 01/21/04

I think YOU'RE bitter because you don't have a clue bgoss@... | 01/22/04

We fuel the world's largest economy...We WILL protect it! cyberian_z | 01/20/04

Here is a clue for you. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/20/04

So now you are sayintg that competition is bad? B.O.F.H. | 01/20/04

I'll compete on any level playing field. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/20/04

Thanks for the perspective John Carroll

| 01/21/04

OMG I'm sticking up for No_Ax Chad_z | 01/21/04

No_Ax is greatly ininformed and has a narrow view of the world! B.O.F.H. | 01/21/04

You are in a global economy, get a clue pcjunkie48 | 01/21/04

If Europe... John Carroll

| 01/21/04

Major assumption Nullifidian | 01/21/04

Yes rapson | 01/20/04

But the U.S. SUPPORTS the rest of the world's economy cyberian_z | 01/20/04

Like I said... John Carroll

| 01/21/04

I don't find EUropeans to be any more educated about far away places NemesisNL | 01/21/04

Europeans are ignorant off the world outside Europe Rational32 | 01/22/04

Re: Yes none none | 01/20/04

Same in Europe... wploger | 01/20/04

Germany... John Carroll

| 01/21/04

Economics... wploger | 01/21/04

Don't blame Bush j.m.galvin | 01/21/04

Don't blame Bush wploger | 01/22/04

hmmm NemesisNL | 01/20/04

If that's what you think... John Carroll

| 01/20/04

I stick to what I said John... John Le'Brecage | 01/20/04

Like I said... John Carroll

| 01/21/04

Ahh, free trade wploger | 01/21/04

Differences of opinion and definition John Le'Brecage | 01/21/04

More John Carroll

| 01/22/04

Just a side point... John Carroll

| 01/21/04

If that's what you think... pcjunkie48 | 01/22/04

Long winded John. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/20/04

Trade John Carroll

| 01/20/04

Incorrect Unemployment Numbers - Double What Author States thomas_dark | 01/21/04

That is not correct John Carroll

| 01/22/04

It's ALWAYS higher j.m.galvin | 01/22/04

Let's do a deal furl12@... | 01/21/04

no kidding JWatson77 | 01/20/04

A few points Nigel Johnstone | 01/20/04

Some comments John Carroll

| 01/20/04

Good points, but could be sharpened Anton Philidor | 01/21/04

Reality misses article author OhMyGosh | 01/20/04

Say what?? NemesisNL | 01/20/04

You think so? John Carroll

| 01/21/04

bootleg DVDs ? NemesisNL | 01/21/04

You do it all the time John Carroll

| 01/21/04

there's a big difference NemesisNL | 01/21/04

Price maximization only applies to Western customers furl12@... | 01/21/04

About planes and "demand curves" Robert Crocker | 01/21/04

Some agreement and disagreement John Carroll

| 01/22/04

Not quite Robert Crocker | 01/23/04

Decapitating the headcount Anton Philidor | 01/23/04

Author's logic reads like spaghetti code cyberian_z | 01/20/04

Hear here... John Le'Brecage | 01/20/04

More Response John Carroll

| 01/21/04

A small exception Anton Philidor | 01/21/04

Exactly... John Carroll

| 01/22/04

Exactly... pcjunkie48 | 01/22/04

a comment John Carroll

| 01/22/04

John will change his tune... Tammee | 01/20/04

Outsourcing ZDNet's writing staff mrterryc | 01/20/04

Excellent rapson | 01/21/04

Outsourcing ZDNet's writing staff pcjunkie48 | 01/22/04

It's more than meets the eye. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/20/04

Explain yourself John Carroll

| 01/21/04

What taxes??? No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/21/04

True John Carroll

| 01/21/04

Hmm, interesting. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/21/04

I see your point John Carroll

| 01/22/04

Not "MACRO" at all Robert Crocker | 01/22/04

No. You do not see his point j.m.galvin | 01/22/04

To Robert Crocker John Carroll

| 01/22/04

To j.m galvin... John Carroll

| 01/22/04

No, I don't think you do. No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/22/04

To No Ax - re: No, I don't think you do j.m.galvin | 01/22/04

To Ax, no more long winded than I John Carroll

| 01/23/04

To j.m. galvin... John Carroll

| 01/22/04

Transition to What? j.m.galvin | 01/22/04

To j.m. galvin again John Carroll

| 01/22/04

To J.C. You did not answer the question j.m.galvin | 01/22/04

To j.m. galvin Mark Miller | 02/03/04

Explain yourself pcjunkie48 | 01/22/04

You won't John Carroll

| 01/22/04

We are finally in agreement except that Taz_z | 01/21/04

I don't think so... No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/21/04

It's true most of the economic gains are illusory, but... furl12@... | 01/21/04

If we could just outsource our political personnel cyberian_z | 01/20/04

hmm JWatson77 | 01/20/04

Interesting comments Nitehawk_z | 01/20/04

Americans invented Television??? Iain_Peters | 01/21/04

Exactly John Carroll

| 01/21/04

re: Exactly Iain_Peters | 01/21/04

It's more than that John Carroll

| 01/21/04

re: Exactly Iain_Peters | 01/21/04

But John???? NemesisNL | 01/21/04

Not the whole story John Carroll

| 01/21/04

not necessarily about greed NemesisNL | 01/21/04

Not the whole story pcjunkie48 | 01/22/04

Not Quite JimSatterfieldW | 02/17/06

Actually I should have said "practical application". No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/21/04

Actually....... Jose Jimenez | 01/21/04

$25 an article tiger78 | 01/21/04

Your Crazy ParadigmOdyssey | 01/21/04

More than just IT... No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/21/04

You might thank the gov't. for this j.m.galvin | 01/21/04

No argument from ne!!! No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/21/04

Jobs that have been lost to competition, automation, increased effeciency. B.O.F.H. | 01/21/04

OK, lets outsource your job. dkwiatkowski@... | 01/21/04

Whoever controls the screen controls consciousness, information and thought furl12@... | 01/21/04

But its not a global economy... themasher | 01/21/04

Dear John, MuffinMan_z | 01/21/04

No... John Carroll

| 01/22/04

H-1B = SCAB Telexer | 01/21/04

Cato Institute says new visa will include pgmrs furl12@... | 01/21/04

The vice of idealism. Anton Philidor | 01/21/04

The eye of the beholder John Carroll

| 01/22/04

Concept vs Practice Anton Philidor | 01/22/04

You make a lot of sense here Mark Miller | 02/03/04

short term: US wins. long term: US loses JosePinchero | 01/21/04

Idealism is no place for Business decisions bhafner | 01/21/04

To an extent, it must be. John L. Ries | 01/29/04

He Doesn't Live In the US or Like Us RobertoSalazar | 01/22/04

Too Busy Looking for Jobs ... fruita100 | 01/22/04

Lead the way - quit your job now lmb02 | 01/26/04

The Problem With Outsourcing JimSatterfieldW | 01/23/04

If there was competition brad.mayes | 01/23/04

Its not that simple... illuminy@... | 01/23/04

Where is the savings? no_code | 01/23/04

Response to a comment.... pmccullough@... | 01/23/04

Intelligent but so Naive bapriga | 01/23/04

Well gang, look at it this way.......... Dolphin39 | 01/23/04

Ending Military Dictatorships tedego | 01/24/04

So lets kill off the old programmers... lmb02 | 01/26/04

Cutting their own throats? John L. Ries | 01/26/04

Some further thoughts John L. Ries | 01/27/04

Interesting thoughts John Carroll

| 01/28/04

Re: Interesting thoughts John L. Ries | 01/29/04

Is Protectionism Bad? cmkors | 01/27/04

Response John Carroll

| 01/28/04

Out of context cmkors | 01/29/04

Would you prefer... John Carroll

| 01/29/04

Re: Response John L. Ries | 01/29/04

One Thing Never Addressed Regarding Outsourcing bradman | 01/27/04

Well.... John Carroll

| 01/28/04

Well.... pcjunkie48 | 01/29/04

Have you ever done business with Chinese/Indian firm? Phil Lo | 03/04/04

Markets of the Future JimSatterfieldW | 02/17/06

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