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Atheism is a belief
Point One:
Nowhere did I say that Stallman's belief was the correct one. Rather, you insinuated that because he is supposedly an atheist he is wrong and without morals, and I called you on it.

Point Two:
Having a "frame of reference" doesn't mean a thing. We all (including Atheists) have some form of this that we live by. How we interpret whatever frame of reference is the more important issue. Some of the biggest losers in history have proclaimed themselves to be Christians, or Muslims, or whatever. How often are innocent people slaughtered by those who "believe".

Once again, you attempt to perpetuate your myth that Stallman can't be correct or have morals because he is an Atheist. I'm saying flat out that you are wrong. Enough said.

>>But, why is Stallman's belief the correct one? Muslim's can point to the Koran. Christian's point to the Bible. At least they have a frame of reference<<
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