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The open-source patent conundrum
So while claiming to make the patents available to open-source developers, Sun can sue folks who work on Linux rather than Solaris.

I don't see the problem with that. I do see the problem with your way of thinking tho. You feel that the GPL should be the only license and everyone should adhere to that. But thats where I disagree, no one should be forced to give away their code/patents like the GPL suggests.
GPL != Freedom
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Thank you Bruce  Roger Ramjet | 02/02/05
Cost of litigation  BrucePerens | 02/02/05
Keep Pluggin away  Roger Ramjet | 02/02/05
Very Well Said  P. Douglas | 02/02/05
The open-source patent conundrum  Loverock Davidson | 02/02/05
So, you do not have a problem ...  Judas I. | 02/02/05
Bruce, you are wrong. It's just that simple.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Simple answer, Don.  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
Prove it  quietLee | 02/02/05
You missed the point  voska | 02/02/05
New here, aren't you?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
No, that is called slander. Tread carefully...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Slander? On the internet? Say it ain't so!!!!11one one!  theding0 | 02/02/05
Isn't slander what you say?  voska | 02/02/05
Slander=spoken  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
It can be.  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
Pot, kettle  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
LOL!  CobraA1 | 02/02/05
I'd like to recall the many times you've called other people "thief"  hipparchus2000 | 02/02/05
Never happened.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
RE: I'd like to recall the many times you've called other people "thief"  richdave | 02/05/05
Slander is a spoken defamation.  B.O.F.H. | 02/03/05
Worthless without compulsary licensing  Nigel Johnstone | 02/02/05
Pure mathematics?  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
Numerical Recipes in C  Nigel Johnstone | 02/02/05
Not all algos are math, then.  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
Yes, as a matter of fact they are.  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
For those interested, Google defines an Algo  voska | 02/02/05
Software patents are bad  voska | 02/02/05
Homework  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Additional  seosamh_z | 02/02/05
Solution  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Mathematics  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
Right  seosamh_z | 02/02/05
OK, you first  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
So much for respecting opinion.  seosamh_z | 02/02/05
So the seller approves and the buyer rejects?  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
That's one point  seosamh_z | 02/02/05
Why "of course"?  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
Obvious Vs Inventive  seosamh_z | 02/02/05
Fix BEFORE expanding  Robert Crocker | 02/03/05
Problem is....  rgafron@... | 02/02/05
Problem is... Imaginary what if's.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
No, actually...  Jeff Spicoli | 02/02/05
Laziness will not pay off  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Not at all...  rgafron@... | 02/02/05
You are VERY fortunate ...  George Mitchell | 02/02/05
Fortuante? No, I understand my business.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Under the radar  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
Fantastic Point!  Jeff Spicoli | 02/02/05
Not at all...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/05
So, again, tell us  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/03/05
In a word, yes. (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/05
Good discussion of current realities.  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
Word games  Nigel Johnstone | 02/02/05
Scrabble's good.  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
The luddite is the one who refers to 90s business models  hipparchus2000 | 02/02/05
Closed eyes  Anton Philidor | 02/03/05
Problems with patenting software  maxo_z | 02/02/05
Patents are good  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Patents are bad, unless you are a BIG company.  Judas I. | 02/02/05
reply  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Reply to your reply  Judas I. | 02/02/05
Gee, they seem to work fine for me...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Gee, how much did you pay ...  Judas I. | 02/02/05
Actaully, the loser paid.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Havin' trouble with the question, Axey?  Judas I. | 02/03/05
Q: If you eliminate software patents  Roger Ramjet | 02/02/05
You're too late  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
taking the idea of a patent as "property" beyond its usefulness to society  hipparchus2000 | 02/02/05
I'm no fan of patents  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 02/02/05
You Answered Your Own Question  P. Douglas | 02/02/05
True  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 02/02/05
Metamorphosis  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
Agreed somewhat  seosamh_z | 02/02/05
The patent minefield  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 02/02/05
Ummm John..  Jeff Spicoli | 02/02/05
What you missed  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 02/02/05
Software patent?  IT_User | 02/02/05
IP Patents Are Taxes On Ideas  P. Douglas | 02/02/05
Look at it differently  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Thomas Jefferson  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
Knowledge is valueable  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Uncreative, yup.  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
That's a GOOD one, Yagotta!  Judas I. | 02/02/05
Out of Context  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Evolution works in concert with ...  Judas I. | 02/02/05
An idea doesn't grow crops...  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
Ask Monsato  osreinstall | 02/02/05
No I wouldn't  P. Douglas | 02/02/05
OK, that's it  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
Try again  osreinstall | 02/02/05
You didn't counter my point  P. Douglas | 02/02/05
Reply  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Return  P. Douglas | 02/02/05
Don Rupert provides NO proof-just conjecture  USCG_z | 02/02/05
Who is Don Rupert? - NT  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Don Rupert  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
Nope  osreinstall | 02/02/05
So, you gotta have a wallet to vote?  Judas I. | 02/02/05
It helps  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Rich guy talk.  Judas I. | 02/02/05
Owning ideas is patently (pun intended) silly!  P. Douglas | 02/02/05
Post Hoc Ergo Procter Hoc  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
Germany had patents  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Now THATS hilarious: "Germany had patents..."  Judas I. | 02/02/05
Another off topic  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Germany  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
If  Mack DaNife | 02/03/05
Who elected YOU the Topic Cop, osreinstall?  Judas I. | 02/03/05
re tires  osreinstall | 02/03/05
re cop  osreinstall | 02/03/05
re re Cop and Reading History  Judas I. | 02/03/05
Your Reaching  osreinstall | 02/03/05
I'm reaching? YOU'RE weaseling.  Judas I. | 02/03/05
flawed logic  osreinstall | 02/03/05
Wacko Logic  Judas I. | 02/03/05
maximus redirection  osreinstall | 02/03/05
You shoulld write for ...  Judas I. | 02/04/05
Incapable of stay on topic  osreinstall | 02/04/05
Still wanna play, eh, osreinstall?  Judas I. | 02/04/05
Actually.....  Stewart Cannon | 02/02/05
Excellent post  Anti_Zealot | 02/02/05
Hardly  osreinstall | 02/02/05
What do you know of science?  Anti_Zealot | 02/03/05
Blinded by science  osreinstall | 02/03/05
Nothing stops you from profiting off your idea  voska | 02/02/05
It won't end there other trades will try.  osreinstall | 02/02/05
the whole software patent system needs to be scraped and redone  liskanich | 02/02/05
Here is how to fix software/IP patents: get rid of them!  P. Douglas | 02/02/05
Continue to rely largely on Copyright!  P. Douglas | 02/02/05
Are you still beating theat USELESS drum?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Bumblebees can't fly  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
NOW I'm gonna quote YOU, Axey:  Judas I. | 02/02/05
Patents, not copyright...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Looks like WE'RE moving too fast for YOU, Axey.  Judas I. | 02/03/05
there you go putting "business" over the fate of the country / human race  hipparchus2000 | 02/02/05
Business IS the fate humanity.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/05
That's not a logical argument . . . (nt)  CobraA1 | 02/03/05
well right now we're heading towards global thermal runaway, temp=100 degC+  hipparchus2000 | 02/03/05
Proven? Where? (nt)  CobraA1 | 02/03/05
Technology and money. These are the two  bjbrock | 02/03/05
test - ignore  Real World | 04/01/05

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