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1. The Microsoft Press Release only mentions 'open' standards for Word, Excel, Powerpoint, however the database component is increasingly a critical component of any office suite. Anyone who has used MS Office 2003 will notice that an MS SQL Server engine is now a required component in order to use the collaborative aspects of Office 2003. Therefore, even if Word, Excel and Powerpoint were 100% open, in any network environment, Microsoft would still have customer lock-in via the proprietary database component.

2. The language in the Microsoft November 21 Press Release is deliberately vague about the ability for GPL programs to support reading and writing of its proposed formats. Given public statements about the GPL from Microsoft Senior Management such as Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer, it is clear that Microsoft will do everything in its power to hurt and destroy GPL programs. The restrictions on GPL access will be revealed as late as possible in the proceedings so that Microsoft can maintain its charade of openness as long as possible.

3. Various commentators such as Pamela Jones and Andy Updegrove who have done detailed studies of the issues have identified the fact that this is all about Microsoft looking for a rubber stamp to a Microsoft 'standard'.

4. Microsoft have not made any mention about the fact that it could include proprietary extensions to 'the standard' in its own products, thereby making 'the standard' basically irrelevant.

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Do they have their people working everywhere??  Turazoor | 12/21/05
Why partake in an obvious biased committee? (NT)  ju1ce | 12/21/05
How do you know its biased  Michael Kelly | 12/21/05
To answer your question  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/21/05
I'm not saying I don't agree  Michael Kelly | 12/21/05
Not nearly as many places as does IBM.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/05
I support IBM  nucrash | 12/21/05
That may be so  Michael Kelly | 12/21/05
Exactly  zztong | 12/21/05
Well said  rapson | 12/21/05
Key difference  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/21/05
Hope Sutor doesn't get overridden  mvaar | 12/21/05
Comeon IBM. Just put some gravy on the dogfood.  osreinstall | 12/21/05
IBM are talking RUBBISH  Roger Huffadine | 12/21/05
Thank you for an excellent post Roger!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/05
Agree.  zztong | 12/21/05
Good post Roger, but....  WiredGuy | 12/21/05
If only it worked like that  Roger Huffadine | 12/22/05
Well...  zkiwi | 12/26/05
More agreement  georgep_z | 12/21/05
Have you read the charter?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/21/05
IBM appologist?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/05
Is this the same IBM that had the NetSphere "standards" rubber stamped?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/05
Interesting assumption  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/21/05
Same as you do when I point out facts about MS.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/05
Projecting again, Don  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/21/05
It only means that IBM does NOT care about MS's "open" standard.  michael_t | 12/21/05
What are you complaining about?  balsover | 12/21/05
And that's the key  rapson | 12/22/05
You got that right.  osreinstall | 12/22/05
IBM sits out Office document standards effort  rchardon@... | 12/21/05
Dude, it is IBM that has been whinining about Java...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/05
Dude, I think he means...  The King's Servant | 12/21/05
Standards are WORTHLESS unless if they are royalty free OPEN specifications  xunil skcor | 12/21/05
Remove cluelessness, read the license. It is royalty free.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/05
100% agreement  dzash2000 | 12/21/05
Why swim with the shark?  Jick | 12/21/05
If you can't swim with the big boys, go home.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/05
I also agree...  Cayble | 12/21/05
IBM's good choice  PhilippeV | 12/21/05
Open Schmopen, someone owns the license.  osreinstall | 12/21/05
At least I am convinced thath MS is adopting the open  michael_t | 12/21/05
MS will create collaborative lock-in via database engine +  interoperate | 12/21/05
You mean like Oracle, SyBase, DB2???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/05
You missed the point  interoperate | 12/22/05
IBM waiting to show it's patent on something else  Boot_Agnostic | 12/22/05
IBM sits out office standard.  elements | 12/24/05
MS Office XML is rubbish, so why invest effort  hipparchus2001 | 12/24/05

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