Didn't it have little to do with "customer demand"
Boot_Agnostic | 11/18/05
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The idea is nice, but...
nucrash | 11/18/05
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If they were going to do this...
ju1ce | 11/18/05
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It's becuase it's the same price as
John Zern | 11/18/05
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Sorry but you could not be more wrong.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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The price OEMs pay is significantly ...
ShadeTree | 11/18/05
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No, that is the price KK approved for the "Top Tier" OEMS.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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He could be right, look at their Linux machines
John Zern | 11/20/05
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Not true.
Zogg | 11/18/05
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Then you are certainly free to ask for it.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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Eh? Where did that sneer come from???
Zogg | 11/19/05
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No sneer
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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FYI: You started sneering with "You're a big boy, right?"
Zogg | 11/19/05
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He could be a *lot* more wrong
IT_User | 11/18/05
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All in the OEMs hands.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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Poor, poor bitty
AmusedAtItAll | 11/19/05
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If Real Audio had been installed by default and improved with Monopoly
DonnieBoy | 11/18/05
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Bzzzzt, Wrong Again...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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It's less about choice ...
Too Old For IT | 12/07/05
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Still no demand for media-player free Windows
gil.sandy@... | 11/19/05
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Consomers NEVER asked for iti or wanted it, it was Montie boys pay off.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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This was a power grab.
Anton Philidor | 11/18/05
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Partly true... Montie boy wanted a legacy...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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Name it Windows XP (no N) and the problem is solved. (NT)
Vily Clay | 11/18/05
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No, that is called false advertizing.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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Nope - Windows XP N has to be new Windows XP by the law. WMP - out. (NT)
Vily Clay | 11/18/05
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No, you can NOT call them the same thing.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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Windows XP N ? that?s what it should of been from the beginning. (NT)
Vily Clay | 11/18/05
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No players, browsers and the like are incorporated into OSes. (NT)
Vily Clay | 11/18/05
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Message has been deleted.
toxicfreak | 11/19/05
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Re: false advertizing
Cardinal_Bill | 11/19/05
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Well knock me over with a feather!
Rodney Davis | 11/18/05
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They understood "contributions" from MS competitors.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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WOW
tystoy1 | 11/18/05
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Ah, so your saying you indeed had a choice.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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evidence of bribery
hipparchus2001 | 11/20/05
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Maybe Sun's bribe wasn't good enough
John Zern | 11/20/05
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Monti was misunderstood!
Linux Geek | 11/18/05
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So you think users are as stupid as Monti boy?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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How can you make a choice
Linux Advocate | 11/18/05
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Here's why
Confused by religion | 11/18/05
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Since advertising $$$
Linux Advocate | 11/18/05
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So the complaint is it can't play in the big leagues?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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Are you kiving under a rock?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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Sorry for the typo techboy, that should read "living"
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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Since many of the purchases are actaully controlled by
Linux Advocate | 11/18/05
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I've heard the ranting, never seen it in the real world.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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Well then
seosamh_z | 11/19/05
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That was hilarious, and accurate. Well said!!!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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Oh, and one more thing holding it back
Confused by religion | 11/18/05
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Ah, so your known by the company you keep?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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Name the sites...
Linux Advocate | 11/18/05
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Message has been deleted.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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Aw, not one single responce.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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They are on the alt.comp news groups
Confused by religion | 11/19/05
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This is true...
just^me | 11/19/05
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Derisive comments indeed
Jack-Booted EULA | 11/19/05
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Jack Booted Linux Advocate Read "YOU ASKED"
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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Hey I didn't ask for one.
Jack-Booted EULA | 11/19/05
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Lying does not help your religious jihad milly
AmusedAtItAll | 11/19/05
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Thank you!!!! xxxoooxxx
Jack-Booted EULA | 11/19/05
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I could not have provided a more perfect response...
Confused by religion | 11/19/05
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Let me lend you a CLUE Read "You Asked"
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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Do I really have to say anything more than the poster did to prove my point
Confused by religion | 11/19/05
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Milly, notice NO ONE has the courage to answer " You Asked" post.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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You do realize...
rapson | 11/21/05
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Every time I post a problem with windows
hipparchus2001 | 11/20/05
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To sell a product, you advertise it
Boot_Agnostic | 11/20/05
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So enjoying my latest Linux experience
Too Old For IT | 12/07/05
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How will this fair in a real court???
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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EU antitrust not about consumers
eb276 | 11/18/05
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Yup, and what happend to the competitors?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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One more thought...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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EU not completely wrong...
Confused by religion | 11/18/05
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I disagree Milly...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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Interesting thing about courts
IT_User | 11/18/05
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Correct and no law has been broken.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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The EC is completely wrong.
Anton Philidor | 11/18/05
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Sure, they didn?t include IE into the basket=incomplete set=big mistake.(NT
Vily Clay | 11/18/05
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Incorporated into an OS products kill competition/capitalism. (NT)
Vily Clay | 11/18/05
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So Apple is killing all competition?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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Why do you have doubts about? What?s not clear? (NT)
Vily Clay | 11/18/05
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But increasing the capabilities ...
Anton Philidor | 11/20/05
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Kill competition, screw the progress, ... = easy living? (NT)
Vily Clay | 11/20/05
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Not too easy.
Anton Philidor | 11/20/05
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Would you be happy too if ...
Vily Clay | 11/21/05
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Check your brain at the door?
techboy_z | 11/18/05
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Aw, what a big boy, you caught a typo.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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typography vs grammar
Jack-Booted EULA | 11/19/05
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Interesting
IT_User | 11/18/05
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Well, one Judge did say...
Anton Philidor | 11/18/05
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What treaty are you talking about.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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YOureally have no clue what Antitrust law is about, do you?
B.O.F.H. | 11/18/05
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Sure, do you?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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If the market belongs to ONE corp. ? is it capitalism or socialism? (NT)
Vily Clay | 11/18/05
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Huh? Apple doesn't own the market, nor does Red Hat.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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If dominating 100% of niche market is not socialism, than what is this? (NT
Vily Clay | 11/19/05
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The issue is more of a stagnated market.
B.O.F.H. | 11/19/05
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Stagnate market? WHERE???
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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I see your problem!
B.O.F.H. | 11/19/05
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Lets take then one at a time.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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No_Ax, get over yourself!
B.O.F.H. | 11/19/05
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Get over being correct? How do you do that?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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What the consumer has said
mdsmedia | 11/19/05
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The flaw in your logic...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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No_Ax, your logic is flawless for dictatorship and ...
Vily Clay | 11/19/05
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Vill... Name calling is not a substitute for facts.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/20/05
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So No_Ax, you want to pretend you lost simple logic and common sense. Well?
Vily Clay | 11/20/05
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What the consumer has said
mdsmedia | 11/19/05
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hey no_ax
Seenidog | 11/19/05
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Do I even care?
voska | 11/18/05
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If they've got a media-free windows, why the C**p with korea?
hipparchus2001 | 11/18/05
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Gee, maybe they don't want tin governments in control of software...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/05
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it costs money
scsi commando | 11/18/05
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No It Doesn't
Edward Meyers | 11/18/05
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Correct, MS doesn't want software by govenment design.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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Low Demand Explained
Edward Meyers | 11/18/05
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Explanation questioned
seosamh_z | 11/19/05
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Dead on with each point. Good Post.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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Hey No-Ax
Seenidog | 11/19/05
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Nice try, your wrong, go away...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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well that certainly answers the questions
Seenidog | 11/19/05
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What didn't you understand about
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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Non-answers
Seenidog | 11/19/05
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Come on No_Ax ..answer the question (NT)
mdsmedia | 11/19/05
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Okay 1 at a Time
Edward Meyers | 11/19/05
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Some counter points
seosamh_z | 11/20/05
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He speaks for me
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 04/22/06
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Three tries and three strikes. Your outta there.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/20/05
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Just to remind No_axe he hasn't answered the question yet
whisperycat | 11/21/05
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Please...
just^me | 11/19/05
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Please...
just^me | 11/19/05
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well duh
Jack-Booted EULA | 11/19/05
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Any time no Ax, any time.
Seenidog | 11/19/05
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What Microsoft should do in the EU
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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What Microsoft should do in the EU
dfruk@... | 11/19/05
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Microsft has already paid the fine, we are past that stage.
B.O.F.H. | 11/19/05
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All fines are returned when defendant is found not guilty.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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Have you figured out why there is a Media Player free version?
B.O.F.H. | 11/19/05
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Of course, Monti boy was paid off is why.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/05
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Microsft has paid nearly $4 billion tomake this go away.
B.O.F.H. | 11/20/05
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Once mpore (you were to slow the first time)
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/20/05
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No_Ax_to_Grind girl, buying silence always looks bad!
B.O.F.H. | 11/20/05
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Thank yuou for agreeing to ignore my posts and not reply.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/20/05
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Microsft has paid nearly $4 billion tomake this go away.
B.O.F.H. | 11/20/05
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ZDNet, fix this forum system!
B.O.F.H. | 11/20/05
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The Court of First Instance...
Anton Philidor | 11/20/05
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The 2007 date approximation is from BBC News, 8 September 2005
B.O.F.H. | 11/20/05
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That was prior to the announcement....
Anton Philidor | 11/20/05
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Still waiting for a real answer
Seenidog | 11/19/05
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Still waiting for a real answer
Seenidog | 11/19/05
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Name calling, general xenophobia
hipparchus2001 | 11/20/05
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Name calling, general xenophobia
hipparchus2001 | 11/20/05
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and other name calling
hipparchus2001 | 11/20/05
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Well let me put it in words you can understand.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/20/05
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A lesson to No Axe in "Copy and paste"
whisperycat | 11/21/05
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"plain for anyone with eyes to see"
douglasids | 11/21/05
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Whether Windows XP N sells or not is irrelevant
hipparchus2001 | 11/20/05
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Very relevant when it goes to trial.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/20/05
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Who's making it ineffective.
pueblonative | 12/07/05
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Not a "separate media player".
Anton Philidor | 11/20/05
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MS Windows Media free version
tracy anne | 01/27/06
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MS Windows
bigherb_98@... | 02/20/07
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