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So, Since Firefox Leads In Downloaded Browsers But It Is Free
They are a total failure since they don't generate any sales or revenue?

Wow, what a concept.
Posted by: itanalyst   Posted on: 10/27/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Microsoft is leader in market?  mlindl | 10/27/05
Spot On  Malik_z | 10/27/05
Not true  java.user | 10/27/05
Where did you get those number?  wexwimpy@... | 10/27/05
Re: Where did you get those number?  dogman01@... | 10/27/05
Numbers  java.user | 10/27/05
Not quite  mdemuth | 10/27/05
Yes, Not quite  MacCanuck | 10/27/05
I did not forget  mdemuth | 10/27/05
Nail on the head!  An_Axe_to_Grind | 10/27/05
What part of the quote you ...  ShadeTree | 10/27/05
And part...  Anti_Zealot | 10/27/05
I don't believe ...  ShadeTree | 10/27/05
Logic, though...  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
Well "professor", even though you were...  MacCanuck | 10/27/05
He identified your statements as assertions.  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
You spoke first...  kb1493 | 10/27/05
Right!  Seenidog | 10/27/05
Wrong  IceTheNet@... | 10/27/05
MS get the market share illegal  wexwimpy@... | 10/27/05
Wrong  Update victim | 10/27/05
No, leader in sales and dollars generated.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
We know that  Roger Ramjet | 10/27/05
Wow, REALLY??  itanalyst | 10/27/05
That would take a life time.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Wow, itanalyst must be really smart...  tic swayback | 10/27/05
Ok, now that's funny  voska | 10/27/05
You guys are mean!  Sxooter_z | 10/27/05
How can you NOT lead in sales when you're a monopoly?  ordaj@... | 10/27/05
So who made you buy the new version?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Look at the decision process to understand why people buy Windows.  DonnieBoy | 10/27/05
The industry wide agreement to supply only Microsoft products preloaded (NT  Update victim | 10/27/05
I know you're not that stupid.  Sxooter_z | 10/27/05
Huh?  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
Look no further than your nearest VC  George Jay | 10/27/05
Software matures.  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
They have done a lot for you and I.  osreinstall | 10/27/05
They have done a lot TO you and I  Update victim | 10/27/05
Whatever dude.  osreinstall | 10/27/05
I disagree  voska | 10/28/05
Without an OS a computer is a chunk of material  osreinstall | 10/28/05
And your point is relevant, because...????  shawkins | 10/27/05
In the real world, dollars are always relevant.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
And therein lies the problem for Micrsoft. Firefox does NOT need  DonnieBoy | 10/27/05
I guess that you're including ETHICS. -NT  Update victim | 10/27/05
So, Since Firefox Leads In Downloaded Browsers But It Is Free  itanalyst | 10/27/05
And, that is the problem for Microsoft. Firefox does NOT have to make  DonnieBoy | 10/27/05
True  Krazyken39 | 10/27/05
If the measure used is profits...  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
Do you all forget  IceTheNet@... | 10/27/05
Yes, and what are the customers getting for those billions????  DonnieBoy | 10/27/05
Ask those rejecting encumbered source and buying MS products.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Well, the value is that everybody else is using it and the need to be  DonnieBoy | 10/27/05
Proof that "technology and innovation" aren't the important thing  ronjohns | 10/27/05
Innovations beyond the standards.  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
Yes, but Microsoft uses "extensions" to provide lock-in.  DonnieBoy | 10/27/05
Better to be locked in than locked out.  osreinstall | 10/27/05
bull puckies.  Sxooter_z | 10/27/05
Not really.  osreinstall | 10/27/05
Please stop using facts.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Yes, the fact that users can not choose an OS based on quality and features  DonnieBoy | 10/27/05
Huh?  java.user | 10/27/05
Microsoft's newest does not = better  maddog@... | 10/27/05
Nonsense  marksashton | 10/27/05
Leader in the Market  jack@... | 10/27/05
Who's us?  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
counter productive  IceTheNet@... | 10/27/05
Well  fraz2005 | 10/27/05
AJAX which everyone is foaming ...  ShadeTree | 10/27/05
the iptv i watch the most is quicktime  hipparchus2001 | 10/27/05
Innovation not allowed in installed products  F-16 Vet | 10/27/05
"fixing what isn't broken"  sguerin_z | 10/27/05
Well.................  Cayble | 10/28/05
stop the whine please  jimk_z | 11/03/05
Actually  Boot_Agnostic | 10/27/05
You're right, but...  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
And the shut up ppl will tell you to just shutup  FilledOut | 10/30/05
That's what happens  Roger Ramjet | 10/27/05
Have you seen The "Bill" Snake?  wiskyjon | 10/27/05
What do you think APIs are for?  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
You are right  Roger Ramjet | 10/27/05
Recent Court cases assured all Windows API's...  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
Secrets and Shadows  BFD | 10/27/05
Lindoze has a wonderful growth pattern  Boot_Agnostic | 10/27/05
Microsoft's 'big bang' could be its last  Loverock Davidson | 10/27/05
Once again...  jasonp@... | 10/27/05
10.0 - Best Post Of The Week  itanalyst | 10/27/05
11  D-Ram | 10/27/05
IT  jknight_z | 10/27/05
EGO is the core issue, here.  lalogos | 10/27/05
Message has been deleted.  MacGeek2121 | 10/27/05
Please note: I do not resort to name-calling ...  lalogos | 10/27/05
Couldn't agree more...  dsentman@... | 10/27/05
Ya had to go THERE didn't ya? ; -)  dolfinwriter@... | 10/27/05
fact  glocks out | 10/27/05
ACTUAL Fact  dolfinwriter@... | 10/27/05
sources  glocks out | 10/27/05
I don't want to battle anything... except bad guys who want to kill us!  dolfinwriter@... | 10/27/05
dolfinwriter-don't fight  sguerin_z | 10/27/05
nice diatribe ...  glocks out | 10/28/05
Theme: it's all about POLICY.  lalogos | 10/27/05
sovereigny  glocks out | 10/27/05
Not quite  kb1493 | 10/27/05
Gotta agree with you...mostly, but...  dsentman@... | 10/27/05
Do you mean that Bill Clinton was WRONG about WMD in Iraq? -NT  Update victim | 10/27/05
Of course he was  azurensis | 10/27/05
Doesn't matter  glocks out | 10/28/05
oh my  finnerski2k5 | 10/27/05
Double standards aren't good, but....  kb1493 | 10/27/05
Once again  Loverock Davidson | 10/27/05
LOL... 10... thanks (nt)  el1jones | 10/27/05
OWWW..........!!  Cayble | 10/28/05
OWWWW...!!  Cayble | 10/28/05
Give it up  Seenidog | 10/27/05
No need to  Loverock Davidson | 10/27/05
Definitely not Mike Cox  Sxooter_z | 10/27/05
Funny Rockie  Sabz5150 | 10/27/05
Question about office  wexwimpy@... | 10/27/05
If you don't know I'm not going to tell you  Loverock Davidson | 10/27/05
"good enough" as the .. Microsoft product?  Otto_Delete | 10/27/05
Adopting alternatives?  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
Yes, better, but "compatible" enough and cheaper.  DonnieBoy | 10/27/05
Just how many releases are enough?  Roger Ramjet | 10/27/05
I agree  Krazyken39 | 10/27/05
AMEN, roger  maddog@... | 10/27/05
Gee, how many Linux distros are enough?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
MORE!  Seenidog | 10/27/05
Regardless of your excuse, they meet the market demand.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
No excuse  Seenidog | 10/27/05
You forget that MS Office is not forward compatible.  DonnieBoy | 10/27/05
Good point  geobeck | 10/27/05
Expectations  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
Not everyone upgrades  voska | 10/28/05
A different point of view  clif.cable@... | 10/27/05
wrong  NemesisNL | 10/27/05
there will be an implosion!  Linux Geek | 10/27/05
I've got a bridge to sell you...  archerjoe | 10/27/05
Yeah that too!  Krazyken39 | 10/27/05
Yeah Right!  Krazyken39 | 10/27/05
Here's the thing that gets me...  steelcuda | 10/27/05
Fix the existing stuff first  duclod | 10/27/05
Exacty right  Seenidog | 10/27/05
Car Analogy  ragnars | 10/27/05
Message has been deleted.  Guy.Salomon@... | 10/27/05
Ditto  Seenidog | 10/27/05
Oh ZDNet...  Qbt | 10/27/05
Dogging Apple?  MacGeek2121 | 10/27/05
There are  Qbt | 10/27/05
Note  Qbt | 10/27/05
ZDnet a MS hater?  glocks out | 10/27/05
Do you think MS is dying?  voska | 10/28/05
Microsoft is still Number One  erniem1970@... | 10/27/05
Cut & Paste Forum  lalogos | 10/27/05
Cut &paste  Seenidog | 10/27/05
what if  jforjan@... | 10/27/05
linux good at office, windows good at home  charlescandy | 10/27/05
Here's a thought  tic swayback | 10/27/05
Actually  IT Scion | 10/27/05
That is an important part of it  tic swayback | 10/27/05
and in Apple's case they really weren't ...  ShadeTree | 10/27/05
I don't know that I'd agree  tic swayback | 10/27/05
No more Microsoft BS for me  onemegshyofagig | 10/27/05
the Mac looks better and better  An_Axe_to_Grind | 10/27/05
OS X looks great but  IT Scion | 10/27/05
Patching is good!  MacGeek2121 | 10/27/05
$125 per OS X upgrade...  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
that's not that much money  hipparchus2001 | 10/27/05
Maybe they just caught on  rabrooks | 10/27/05
Never!  An_Axe_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Let us pray .....  An_Axe_to_Grind | 10/27/05
From the Church of the holy Cabbage..  Seenidog | 10/27/05
From the church of the holy No_axe_ to _grind..  Seenidog | 10/27/05
I bet in your little world that passes for funny.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Well, yes  Seenidog | 10/27/05
Ask itanylist if you can borrow...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
To understand MS, you must understand their market.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Did You Post This????  itanalyst | 10/27/05
If you pay attention I do hold MS's feet to the fire when appropiate.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
... it's just never been appropriate...  An_Axe_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Aw, did I ruin your itty bitty day?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Guess you missed the VS.NET article then  eb276 | 10/28/05
Microsoft is not the only company producing software.  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
And how are they fairing?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
If you're making money...  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
I am not saying attack MS on the strong front..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Read your post on home users...  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
Isn't this always the way it's been?  Mark Miller | 10/29/05
Yes  Seenidog | 10/27/05
The home market is Microsoft's preserve.  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
You make my point for me I believe.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Best post by No_Ax_to_Grind....  Sir_Chancealot | 10/27/05
Microsoft will get another wakeup call.  Wytil | 10/27/05
Sucess can be measured a lot of ways.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Think they're selling only one version...  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
Yes and no...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Comparing notes on the elephant.  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
Actually no..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
You couldn't be any more wrong!  ShadeTree | 10/27/05
Bzzzzt sorry....  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
You mean a Microsoft push...  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
Still wrong!  ShadeTree | 10/27/05
Werll my friend, I just spent a week in Redmond wtih upper management.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Question...  Patrick Jones | 10/27/05
Lots of stuff...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
You are so full of yourself!  ShadeTree | 10/27/05
Also, for a small business moving to the ...  ShadeTree | 10/27/05
Shady, I didn't say their time was exclusive.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Wron, wrong and still wrong  ShadeTree | 10/27/05
Actually Annie flew in for the meeting..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
You are SO right on...  F-16 Vet | 10/27/05
I agree, partially  Patrick Jones | 10/27/05
Bewcause that is what you have been trained to see...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Not really  Patrick Jones | 10/27/05
Ok, a couple of examples then...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Thanks..  Patrick Jones | 10/27/05
But I am just one guy...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
The only one of those that isn't already available..  Patrick Jones | 10/27/05
You miss my point completely.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
I didn't miss your point..  Patrick Jones | 10/27/05
Today at Staples...  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
"Run DOS applications and supporting 300 baud serial ports?"  Nobody_really | 10/27/05
Was there a question? Bill Gates put on a demo  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Carroll is Right  Harry Bardal | 10/27/05
Carroll is right if you want to be Microsoft.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Excellently said!!!  jim_oflaherty | 10/27/05
Compete with MS? It can't be done.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 10/30/05
MS doesn't need to produce a new product  Dr_Zinj | 10/27/05
Well said...  ComputerGuyCJ | 10/27/05
Is copying now called innovation  stomfi@... | 10/27/05
Huh?  IT Scion | 10/31/05
Just give up?  Anton Philidor | 10/27/05
I couldn't agree more !  michael_t | 10/27/05
Message has been deleted.  cyber-shoplifter | 10/27/05
Both  An_Axe_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Sensationalism?  junkwarrior | 10/27/05
Please  IT Scion | 10/27/05
Personally I think 3-5 is good  voska | 10/28/05
Cost is the problem  DarthRidiculous | 10/27/05
Big Bang  TIAMET | 10/27/05
Insults, No _Ax_to_Grind primer..  Seenidog | 10/27/05
oops  Seenidog | 10/27/05
Message has been deleted.  An_Axe_to_Grind | 10/27/05
worry  Seenidog | 10/27/05
Many of the posters here...  dsentman@... | 10/27/05
.... schizophrenic about Microsoft?  An_Axe_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Every few years...  dsentman@... | 10/27/05
Market advice  code_flogger | 10/27/05
It is surrealistically funny that EVEN though it takes MS FIVE years to  michael_t | 10/27/05
Ditto  An_Axe_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Has anybody considered the fact that the delays are intentional?  George Jay | 10/27/05
More about market forces...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/05
Why the wait is good...  nucrash | 10/27/05
Pass the hat?  Mihi Nomen Est | 10/27/05
Time Frames & Statistics...  The Rifleman | 10/27/05
Stop with the anit Microsoft stuff.  jim.bassett@... | 10/28/05
Hear hear.  Twey | 10/28/05
WHY MICROSOFT KEEPS CREATING A NEW HOORAH!.  fakir005@... | 10/29/05
WHY MICROSOFT KEEPS CREATING A NEW HOORAH!.  fakir005@... | 10/29/05
Hit return and hope it works!  brdlyprsn@... | 11/01/05

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