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It appears to me that the article is taking about using PHP as a scripted language for novices. Otherwise, it would have used the term "bytecoded PHP" as you did. Most of the PHP installations that I have seen run PHP as a script, not as bytecode.

Anything that compiles a language into bytecode would make it more akin to Java, C# or VB.NET. I don't believe that's what the article was talking about.

I don't recall mentioning anything about 16-Bit DOS in my post. It sounds like you are using an analogy about antiquated DOS for setting up a strawman argument. Nice try. happy

Scripted languages (as described in the article) are more aking to the antiquated DOS programs that you mention in your argument. As scripts, they had several issues, the 2 biggest being that (1.) they had to be interpreted each time a page was requested, and (2.) you had troubles protecting your IP if you sold them as products because the source was available (being scripted languages). And script run through a shrouder could just as easily be de-shrouded.

A good OOP language, utilizing some sort of byte-code compiler, running on some sort of a virtual machine is the state-of-the-art as we know it now. Scripts for novices are one step backward.

99% of code readabilty depends on good standards. I could show you PHP code that would make you flip, and I could show you Java code written so that a novice could follow it. It depends little on the language, and more on the skill of the programmer.

My point is that if you don't have good standards, or an understanding of basic system architecture, the odds of a novice writing a concise application is very slim.
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Still short sighted.  ceegh | 05/17/05
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Yes  FirstNLastN | 05/13/05
What a pile of...  FirstNLastN | 05/13/05
wrong, dumb, stupid and MISLEADING  quietLee | 05/13/05
Scripted vs Object-Oriented  wildranger | 05/13/05
It is AOP not OOP wink (nt)  doe_z | 05/13/05
There is a place for everything.  doe_z | 05/13/05
Bingo!  ceegh | 05/17/05
Flexability of languages like PHP, in particular  Dan_Walker | 05/14/05
so you think businesses WANT to hire script kiddies to write apps. to run  wessonjoe | 05/17/05
Failures of ASP.NET  wildranger | 05/14/05
I do not witness any of what you are talking about, I'm afraid  Dan_Walker | 05/15/05
does anyone still use ASP.net?  hipparchus2000 | 05/16/05
PHP hobbyist????  hipparchus2000 | 05/16/05
Some of these posts here ...  coffeenite | 05/16/05
I disagree completely  hipparchus2000 | 05/16/05
Uh ... I'm not so sure about that ...  coffeenite | 05/16/05
output caching, etc  hipparchus2000 | 05/16/05
Sorry, I disagree...  wildranger | 05/16/05
good points but  hipparchus2000 | 05/17/05
....so have millions of businesses world-wide  wildranger | 05/17/05
in other words you have a financial interest in .net  hipparchus2000 | 05/17/05
New Scripting Language for .NET/Mono  ab@... | 05/17/05
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