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I do not witness any of what you are talking about, I'm afraid
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"ASP.NET is the new way of buiding web apps and has been
slowly taking over much of the business world'

Not where I am, it isn't. It's certainly a fairly new way of building
web apps, that borrows very heavily from existing models, but
Wrox Press actually went bankrupt waiting for ASP.NET to hit the
big time.

Where I am, ASP.NET has seen a very modest take up, largely
with governmental clients who have subsidised volume-
purchasing agreements with Microsoft to reduce the high costs
of lisensing. Even then, they tend to hire PHP programmers and
put them on a training course because (as one NHS official told
me) people with the official Microsoft-accedited .NET
qualifications were, in his words, "p*ss poor", and "people with
scripting experience usually had a better grasp of what was
actually going on with key .NET concepts" - like "postback", for
instance (God, how many times have I seen *that* one misused!).

I'm genuinely glad that, as a .NET supporter, you are managing
to find work. I am pro, my fellow software developers and do not
begrudge you your livelihood in the least, but I would not be
able to find the same kind of employment as a .NET developer,
here. In any case, having a Microsoft advertising campaign
based on the fact that Microsoft technologies are STILL cheaper
than open source, simply because you can pay your developers
and system administrators less, is not a strong inducement for
me to recommend .NET as a solution to any of my clients;
especially when I tell them we'll be ripping out the slackware
servers and replacing them with Windows 2003 "Advanced"
server: "That'll be $4000 for the server, and the database
manager is $5000, per processor, let's see... that's two
processsors, so... . $14,000 - don't worry, just dock it from my
pay. It'll be slightly slower than the Slackware servers and will
need rebooting everytime the software gets updated, but I'll
work double shifts to make up for it."

Sound like, although "no oe ever got the sack for buying
Microsoft", they also "never got to see much home life
afterwards". happy

Hey, don't take me too seriously: I'm not anti Microsoft
(although, as an open-source developer, I sometimes suspect
that Microsoft is anti-me: I wish that some of their appologists
could understand that having a large corporation trying to put
you out of work all the time does not endear you towards them),
but right here, I would rather stick with PHP because I like to get
paid, and because open source has consistently shown itself to
be more customer-focused than the proprietary models.
Posted by: Dan_Walker   Posted on: 05/15/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Too bad sourceforge  Roger Ramjet | 05/13/05
The wrong message.  ceegh | 05/13/05
Do it "MY" way, or go without.  enduser_z | 05/13/05
Still short sighted.  ceegh | 05/17/05
This assumes that all Web projects start out large  Dan_Walker | 05/14/05
A little Elitist, aren't we?  el1jones | 05/14/05
Brother, you got that one right!!!  coffeenite | 05/16/05
Wow, maybe I can be an accountant too?  agramont@... | 05/13/05
I sympathize with you.  Yen_z | 05/13/05
Maybe, if you want  Dan_Walker | 05/14/05
WROX Press -- Dude, I'm Bummed  coffeenite | 05/16/05
Ummmm...what?  vdraken | 05/13/05
Yes  FirstNLastN | 05/13/05
What a pile of...  FirstNLastN | 05/13/05
wrong, dumb, stupid and MISLEADING  quietLee | 05/13/05
Scripted vs Object-Oriented  wildranger | 05/13/05
It is AOP not OOP wink (nt)  doe_z | 05/13/05
There is a place for everything.  doe_z | 05/13/05
Bingo!  ceegh | 05/17/05
Flexability of languages like PHP, in particular  Dan_Walker | 05/14/05
so you think businesses WANT to hire script kiddies to write apps. to run  wessonjoe | 05/17/05
Failures of ASP.NET  wildranger | 05/14/05
I do not witness any of what you are talking about, I'm afraid  Dan_Walker | 05/15/05
does anyone still use ASP.net?  hipparchus2000 | 05/16/05
PHP hobbyist????  hipparchus2000 | 05/16/05
Some of these posts here ...  coffeenite | 05/16/05
I disagree completely  hipparchus2000 | 05/16/05
Uh ... I'm not so sure about that ...  coffeenite | 05/16/05
output caching, etc  hipparchus2000 | 05/16/05
Sorry, I disagree...  wildranger | 05/16/05
good points but  hipparchus2000 | 05/17/05
....so have millions of businesses world-wide  wildranger | 05/17/05
in other words you have a financial interest in .net  hipparchus2000 | 05/17/05
New Scripting Language for .NET/Mono  ab@... | 05/17/05
I commend the author  ghekko | 06/27/06

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