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A little Elitist, aren't we?
While I must agree, that enterprise level applications are not for the beginner, there is a reason you are fixing or replacing applications made by others. IT departments have this idea that they are the end all be all of the corporation; while they are normally just a support department for major corporations.
Banking and Finance
Insurance
Auto companies
Shipping companies
IT is an important part, but still but a support department for information. So when other departments come over and say.."Hey, we need this..." and IT says... "We'll put you on our list, how and get it done is 18 months for $200,000" for a non-essential small database, people go elsewhere for their solutions. They grab what they can, and make it work... Then when IT sees that they are losing control the grab it back, and "fix or replace it"; Usually with a overly-complex, expensive replacement.

I've seen exactly that;

"We're going to replace this Access/Asp Web database with a Bluestone Sapphire Application created by a $180/hour consultant, that will take 3 months to create and test. "
"But it only took me a day to make this and it works fine."
"But it will be done right, like I was taught in my masters level, business application for enterprise security class."
"Huh, never mind"

While I was working for a large insurance company the head internet director said "Well, your department is supposed to support us with the information you produce." Which may the the single most dangerous business statement I've heard that wasn't a joke. Being an IT rouge in a different division, by bosses response was "Huh, last time I heard we're still an insurance company and not an IT company."

I think that IT people need to remember that IT supports the business processes; We don't own them.
Posted by: el1jones   Posted on: 05/14/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Too bad sourceforge  Roger Ramjet | 05/13/05
The wrong message.  ceegh | 05/13/05
Do it "MY" way, or go without.  enduser_z | 05/13/05
Still short sighted.  ceegh | 05/17/05
This assumes that all Web projects start out large  Dan_Walker | 05/14/05
A little Elitist, aren't we?  el1jones | 05/14/05
Brother, you got that one right!!!  coffeenite | 05/16/05
Wow, maybe I can be an accountant too?  agramont@... | 05/13/05
I sympathize with you.  Yen_z | 05/13/05
Maybe, if you want  Dan_Walker | 05/14/05
WROX Press -- Dude, I'm Bummed  coffeenite | 05/16/05
Ummmm...what?  vdraken | 05/13/05
Yes  FirstNLastN | 05/13/05
What a pile of...  FirstNLastN | 05/13/05
wrong, dumb, stupid and MISLEADING  quietLee | 05/13/05
Scripted vs Object-Oriented  wildranger | 05/13/05
It is AOP not OOP wink (nt)  doe_z | 05/13/05
There is a place for everything.  doe_z | 05/13/05
Bingo!  ceegh | 05/17/05
Flexability of languages like PHP, in particular  Dan_Walker | 05/14/05
so you think businesses WANT to hire script kiddies to write apps. to run  wessonjoe | 05/17/05
Failures of ASP.NET  wildranger | 05/14/05
I do not witness any of what you are talking about, I'm afraid  Dan_Walker | 05/15/05
does anyone still use ASP.net?  hipparchus2000 | 05/16/05
PHP hobbyist????  hipparchus2000 | 05/16/05
Some of these posts here ...  coffeenite | 05/16/05
I disagree completely  hipparchus2000 | 05/16/05
Uh ... I'm not so sure about that ...  coffeenite | 05/16/05
output caching, etc  hipparchus2000 | 05/16/05
Sorry, I disagree...  wildranger | 05/16/05
good points but  hipparchus2000 | 05/17/05
....so have millions of businesses world-wide  wildranger | 05/17/05
in other words you have a financial interest in .net  hipparchus2000 | 05/17/05
New Scripting Language for .NET/Mono  ab@... | 05/17/05
I commend the author  ghekko | 06/27/06

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