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Bush anyone?
Sounds like Bush should be a MAC supporter, but instead, he supports MS...hmmm...perhaps Bush's elitist snobbery is pointed in the wrong direction?
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Mac is the underdog, too.  Kamikaze_Ohka | 10/12/04
Millionaires for Marx  Anton Philidor | 10/12/04
Society will change...  Kamikaze_Ohka | 10/19/04
Bush anyone?  nomorems | 11/10/04
Why would Linux types want to kill off the Mac?  rbethell | 10/12/04
Because..  d_jedi | 10/12/04
We often disagee...but I see a grain of truth in what  Laff | 10/12/04
boneheaded conspiracy theory  Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04
i agree  eLurker | 10/12/04
WEll I did see Dich Chenney's lips move when GW  Laff | 10/12/04
Neither extreme (way, way OT)  rapson | 10/12/04
Oh My  Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04
I would KILL to see a McCain/Powell ticket myself.  Laff | 10/12/04
To Jeff  rapson | 10/12/04
To Carl  Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04
carl  eLurker | 10/12/04
neither extreme etc.  TokyoPete | 10/15/04
GWB not elitist?  nomorems | 11/10/04
Relax..your favorite war criminal has less than 1 month left..  Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04
so you think  eLurker | 10/12/04
Osama and Al-Qaeda WERE NOT responsible for 9/11!  Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04
jeffy  eLurker | 10/12/04
America's real problems  CO_TechGuy | 10/12/04
Well the question is are we part of a global community  Laff | 10/12/04
Now the question is, what does being in that community mean?  CO_TechGuy | 10/12/04
And don't confuse a realization that being a good  Laff | 10/12/04
ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU JIM  Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04
To: Laff  CO_TechGuy | 10/12/04
To: Jeff Spicoli  CO_TechGuy | 10/12/04
To CO-TechGuy...thank you and to enjoy our exchange  Laff | 10/13/04
Most comonly used phrase by Dubya...  The King's Servant | 10/15/04
You're putting words in my mouth..  d_jedi | 10/12/04
its not that they want to ... its just a byproduct  eLurker | 10/12/04
Perhaps but Linux commodity values will NEVER  Laff | 10/12/04
what happened to loki? (nt)  eLurker | 10/12/04
Someone told me that they planned to "Shove something  Laff | 10/12/04
apples and oranges  eLurker | 10/12/04
But in the end Apple is a hardware company.  Laff | 10/12/04
yep  eLurker | 10/12/04
Correction...  doe_z | 10/12/04
Right on the money!  Laff | 10/12/04
well...  eLurker | 10/12/04
Yeah..and a lot of GW supporters don't have a  Laff | 10/12/04
of course  eLurker | 10/12/04
So by "HIGH" end you don't mean my kind of high  Laff | 10/12/04
actually  eLurker | 10/12/04
NO just a member in good standing of that Middle  Laff | 10/12/04
Yeah, the middle class is REAL high end  Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04
jeffy  eLurker | 10/12/04
I think a big point is being missed  rbochan | 10/12/04
Linux vs. Mac  Anton Philidor | 10/12/04
MAC TCO  Gary the Writer | 12/29/04
Win XP on Older Machine  gsquared | 12/29/04
No one button mouse here  Gary the Writer | 12/29/04
Finish it Off?  htotten | 10/12/04
Well even "IF" Linux has surpassed Apple's market  Laff | 10/12/04
Apple doesn't want to dominate  openMind | 10/12/04
No good deed goes unpunished.  Anton Philidor | 10/12/04
Or maybe they don't upgrade to the newest OS nor  Laff | 10/12/04
Losing something?  openMind | 10/13/04
Games  gsquared | 12/29/04
Yeah, great marketing sceme, bad for consumers  The King's Servant | 10/15/04
Frankly I think there is room for everyone.  Laff | 10/12/04
When?  seosamh_z | 10/12/04
We are in the process now...the shake out will become  Laff | 10/12/04
Next few years  seosamh_z | 10/12/04
The only one sure thing in life is there will be CHANGE!  Laff | 10/12/04
Relax Mr. Scared, it's already been happening for a while now..  Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04
Dell & MS  The King's Servant | 10/15/04
Only if patent issues are addressed.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
No_Ax == MSFT Astroturfer  Chad_z | 10/12/04
I'm all for Linux Chad...but NO Linux is not going  Laff | 10/12/04
MSFT? No, try Kodak.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
Quite true  Michael Kelly | 10/12/04
Kodak needed no prompting.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
Kodaks' So-Called Patent is a Farce  Kamikaze_Ohka | 10/13/04
Uh huh $92 million farce you mean.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/13/04
The Kodak patent issue would be applicable.  B.O.F.H. | 10/12/04
Just one example out of hundreds.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
And what you're missing  Chad_z | 10/12/04
I missed nothing, you on the other hand...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
counter suit for breach of their patents  hipparchus2000 | 10/12/04
Nope, I use nothing I don't have a LEGAL license for.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/13/04
a licence may or may not offer legal protection  hipparchus2000 | 10/15/04
Will NEVER happen  Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04
Jeff, it's not about MS/  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
Isn't it amazing...  PA-ITGuy | 10/12/04
Exactly! And, I don't think MS is the one to worry about.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
One $! billion dollar settlement by a user will be enough.  Anton Philidor | 10/12/04
Just go after the distros.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
Even more amazing, don't listen to the experts.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
You're "right"  Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04
How about some small company  PA-ITGuy | 10/12/04
Exactly, and Jeff has no answer.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
Wish I were unemployed like yourself so I had all the time in the world  Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04
Hmmm, sucks to be you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
Here's an idea, get some patents and retire.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
I more or less retired a few years ago at age 36  hipparchus2000 | 10/12/04
How about some small company  none none | 10/12/04
Big difference though..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/13/04
List all applicable patent issues.  B.O.F.H. | 10/12/04
Last review showed there were at LEAST 283.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
Again...  Michael Kelly | 10/12/04
Here you go.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
Note: This comes from an open source support group.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
but USPTO is a mess, this means nothing  hipparchus2000 | 10/12/04
BOFH, is that what you wanted?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
283 potential patents infringed upon  B.O.F.H. | 10/12/04
The ZDNet version had more information...  Anton Philidor | 10/12/04
BOFH doesn't listen to the experts.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
So where is the list of applicable patents?  B.O.F.H. | 10/12/04
Go ask Pub Pat.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
Are you clueless? This was Pub. Pat.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
Are you also clueless?  B.O.F.H. | 10/12/04
BOFH knows more than all the experts!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
BOFH knows more....  hipparchus2000 | 10/12/04
more like WW III, nuclear armagendon  voska | 10/12/04
Gee, Kodak JUST DID IT. No war...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
Legit claims are fine  voska | 10/12/04
Deep pockets? Hmmm, IBM, Red Hat, Suse...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
No bad PR?  Anton Philidor | 10/12/04
None at all...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
Sure.  Anton Philidor | 10/12/04
Trust me on this...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
but if you get a community against you  hipparchus2000 | 10/12/04
Not if I don't live in the community...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/13/04
not living in the community ..  hipparchus2000 | 10/15/04
Guess You Missed the Novell Announcement  htotten | 10/12/04
No_Ax is just confused.  B.O.F.H. | 10/12/04
So then, you think Linus T. and Bruce P. are stupid?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
I just love how you cling to things, it's so cute!  B.O.F.H. | 10/12/04
For crying out loud, this has NOTHING to do with SCO.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
Why are you mentioning SCO Group?  B.O.F.H. | 10/12/04
What are *YOU* talking about?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
BOFH, let me help you...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
Who cares? I mean if they want to get sued too fine.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
patent nuclear war  hipparchus2000 | 10/12/04
Nope, I don't use ANY software from IBM.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/13/04
say IBM has a patent on, say file-save  hipparchus2000 | 10/15/04
Merge Linux & Mac  tero_t_vaananen@... | 10/12/04
I don't think so......  Laff | 10/12/04
What he said...  PA-ITGuy | 10/12/04
Merge what, exactly?  Jkirk3279 | 10/12/04
No offense to Macs of course but  xiter88 | 12/03/04
The X Factor  Gary the Writer | 12/29/04
Merge Linux & Mac  manub | 10/12/04
Think about this a bit more  hipparchus2000 | 10/12/04
This is the deal  tero_t_vaananen@... | 10/13/04
Use the proper OS for the project requirements...  JonathonDoe | 10/12/04
It certainly will!  Crash2100 | 10/12/04
Nope...same old arugement about Apple's demise  Laff | 10/12/04
Please go outside to smoke...  ~rpb~ | 10/12/04
It is just a matter of time...  xiter88 | 12/02/04
It certainly will!  twhitt | 10/12/04
Macs cost more?  ~rpb~ | 10/12/04
Well to be fair to the expensive outlook from people  Laff | 10/12/04
I'll say again...  ~rpb~ | 10/12/04
I'm agreeing with most of what you say, if not all  Laff | 10/12/04
Toyota or BMW  AdeOghert | 10/12/04
Toyota?  huffma | 10/13/04
White box not high end?  d_jedi | 10/12/04
The problem here is a failure to understand..  htotten | 10/12/04
How about . . .  openMind | 10/12/04
Mac only the beginning....  Anton Philidor | 10/12/04
Too much generalization ...  MacCanuck | 10/12/04
Sometimes you're right  Anton Philidor | 10/12/04
Not more expensive  openMind | 10/13/04
Last longer?  PA-ITGuy | 10/12/04
Price of the box is not an issue for corporations  Fred Fredrickson | 10/12/04
You're arguing paying for a Name  voska | 10/12/04
Apple mainframe?  Fred Fredrickson | 10/12/04
I agree . . .  openMind | 10/13/04
What are YOU smoking?  Roger Ramjet | 10/12/04
Do you even know what you're talking about?  openMind | 10/12/04
What are YOU smoking?  mrlinux | 10/12/04
Roger...  ~rpb~ | 10/12/04
Total cost of ownership  twhitt | 10/12/04
Longevity  openMind | 10/12/04
Cost = Features  Serpamac | 12/29/04
Not any time soon  ITGuy04 | 10/12/04
What are YOU smoking?  Roger Ramjet | 10/12/04
eMac $700.00 17" iMac starting at $1300.00  Laff | 10/12/04
Um what are you smoking?  voska | 10/12/04
Facts and experience  steve@... | 12/29/04
Less Sensationalism Puhleeeaseeeeeeeee.  rousley | 10/12/04
OH boy!  Roger Ramjet | 10/12/04
Apple Will Finish Itself Off  P. Douglas | 10/12/04
Yawn...sigh. And how long has this arguement been  Laff | 10/12/04
RE: Apple Will Finish Itself Off  Randy Smith | 10/12/04
Profits keep Apple from finishing itself  Ken_z | 10/12/04
Sadly, OS-X on Intel won't drive profits or quality.  JonathonDoe | 10/12/04
the experience  eLurker | 10/12/04
Making do with Mac until HAL or LCARS are available happy  JonathonDoe | 10/13/04
hal  eLurker | 10/13/04
The Apple Way?  Gary the Writer | 12/30/04
Apple will always have its niche  Michael Kelly | 10/12/04
Always...no...not always...  Stellardyne | 10/12/04
But...  Gary the Writer | 12/30/04
Linux helps the Mac  Doug K | 10/12/04
I agree with almost everything  openMind | 10/12/04
That wasn't a prediction  Doug K | 10/12/04
Unlikely windfalls  Anton Philidor | 10/12/04
NeXT OS was on Intel back in the early 90's!  douellette | 10/12/04
Darwin  Jkirk3279 | 10/12/04
Darwin  douellette | 10/12/04
I totally disagree  knerd101 | 10/12/04
How will it help them???  Stellardyne | 10/12/04
Not myself  xiter88 | 12/02/04
Your comment on virus' is wrong  Roger Ramjet | 10/12/04
Not IMPOSSIBLE  openMind | 10/12/04
Mission impossible  seosamh_z | 10/12/04
Linux vs. OS X?  rkadowns | 10/12/04
Gnome?  shadow42 | 10/13/04
That depends on how well the Apple team does their job ...  George Mitchell | 10/12/04
When worlds collide.  Anton Philidor | 10/12/04
The unexpected might happen ...  George Mitchell | 10/12/04
Will the Mac finish off Linux?  Michel Merlin | 10/12/04
Stupid Article  ibabadur1 | 10/12/04
Linux is threat to everything, ya right  balsover | 10/12/04
Fact check: server sales  Anton Philidor | 10/12/04
There you go with those pesky facts.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04
A pox of facts...they hurt my feelings:)  Laff | 10/12/04
Server Sales  htotten | 10/12/04
Do you have numbers for the new server market?  Anton Philidor | 10/12/04
Oddly enough  voska | 10/12/04
what has that to do with Apple?  hipparchus2000 | 10/19/04
I've wondered the same thing  robco | 10/12/04
Not anytime soon...  d_jedi | 10/12/04
Get real, people...  The_Raven_z | 10/12/04
One exception  PA-ITGuy | 10/12/04
I think you're a bit off the mark  j.m.galvin | 10/12/04
Perhaps...  PA-ITGuy | 10/12/04
I agree. As Apple won't have...  xiter88 | 12/02/04
Linux to match OSX for ease of use???  Anton Philidor | 10/12/04
Not exactly  shadow42 | 10/13/04
No inexpensive X server?  none none | 10/12/04
Everything I've read says that Apple's Xserver line  Laff | 10/12/04
Ethereal  shadow42 | 10/13/04
Like any business to stay viable if the market and users are inclined  FilledOut | 10/12/04
Who THINKS UP these stories?  BitTwiddler | 10/12/04
Or at least a bridge that USE To be in Florida before  Laff | 10/12/04
Port major games on Linux = Mac + MS 10% of the market.  Vily Clay | 10/12/04
Well Apple is making money hands over fist with  Laff | 10/12/04
What makes you happy? ? highest prices and being in minority. (NT)  Vily Clay | 10/12/04
I've always been in the MINORITY! If find crowds  Laff | 10/12/04
According to Apple 97% should live without computers. Nice. (NT)  Vily Clay | 10/12/04
No...Apple just does not care to sell at a price  Laff | 10/12/04
Praise to Allah that Steve Jobs won?t exceed 3% (NT)  Vily Clay | 10/12/04
Then we agree everything is good.  Laff | 10/12/04
Thanks God, our pockets are safe now. (NT)  Vily Clay | 10/12/04
Yes thank GOD what ever GOD you choose. But  Laff | 10/13/04
Are you able to care about the majority? (NT)  Vily Clay | 10/13/04
I don't understand that question?  Laff | 10/13/04
Let?s start. You claim ? 3% Mac = Rolls-Royce. 92% iPod= ? (NT)  Vily Clay | 10/13/04
I thought I made it clear I was NOT calling Apple  Laff | 10/13/04
If Apple is not the Roll Royce - Apple is a too greedy ..(?) (NT)  Vily Clay | 10/13/04
Viley dude...you just don't get it.  Laff | 10/18/04
But how much are they making on software?  voska | 10/12/04
Open hardware + Linux = guaranteed freedom to compete, and proprietary?  Vily Clay | 10/12/04
Bush-led globalization = low cost pc?  pinback_z | 10/13/04
No war with Iraq = 500B to US taxpayers. That?s not it. (NT)  Vily Clay | 10/13/04
they could have bought a mac, a mac laptop and ipod for everyone in the USA  hipparchus2000 | 10/15/04
So what is Moore's law  pinback_z | 10/19/04
Ease of use, consistency  hres | 10/12/04
are you kidding - they helped prop apple up  V Sanders | 10/12/04
Whoever wrote this article is an idiot...  Stellardyne | 10/12/04
Yup and "IT" not the iMac was Steve's most  Laff | 10/12/04
Of course Microsoft needs Apple...  Anton Philidor | 10/12/04
Sorry Stellardyne: WRONG.  dropzone@... | 12/29/04
Linux zealots are hilarious.  jimk_z | 10/12/04
right tool for the right job is different for everyone  pinback_z | 10/13/04
Faster Hardware is finishing off Macs  zeusfuse | 10/12/04
re: faster hardware?  johnnybravo_z | 10/13/04
how much was that rig?  pinback_z | 10/13/04
cost  johnnybravo_z | 10/13/04
good link  pinback_z | 10/13/04
Build your own Mac  espuela@... | 10/17/04
Can you upgrade to 4 or 8 CPUs?  xiter88 | 12/02/04
Geeks stuck in their bellybuttons  dropzone@... | 12/29/04
You guys just don't get it!  Gary the Writer | 12/30/04
WordPress works perfectly fine with Safari  arglborps | 10/12/04
Not only does it work  Zoraster | 10/13/04
Camino or Firefox or Mozilla or Opera  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 10/26/04
as above  hikermike | 10/12/04
another 100% statement  pinback_z | 10/13/04
Linux is for Geeks. OS X is for people.  rameeti | 10/13/04
100% correct, my friend  pinback_z | 10/13/04
Expensive X Server  jrphillips_wk@... | 10/13/04
..."rest assured"...  MTMacPhee | 10/13/04
Has it been forgotten?  bert@... | 10/13/04
Check your history  openMind | 10/13/04
BZZT! WRONG.  dropzone@... | 12/29/04
OSX DOES run on x86 hardware!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/13/04
will this work on VMware?  pinback_z | 10/13/04
..."if you need a mobile system"...  MTMacPhee | 10/13/04
Mac is dinosaur - superbly adapted but not evolving rapidly  alanrbriggs | 10/13/04
I don't understand your post.  MTMacPhee | 10/13/04
News flash!  dropzone@... | 12/29/04
I already find KDE better....  Tachyon | 10/13/04
Maybe not, in niches, maybe yes in general desktop  xer | 10/13/04
Well...  shadow42 | 10/13/04
Unlikely  John L. Ries | 10/13/04
Cygwin X.org  LnxSkip | 10/14/04
I think you are asking the wrong question  durandal00 | 10/14/04
Different markets for different machines  KRP_z | 10/15/04
Of course not.  richdave | 10/15/04
Have I just not been paying attention?  flipbarnes | 10/15/04
re: Have I just not been paying attention?  richdave | 10/15/04
Linux Community after Linux  flipbarnes | 10/23/04
Microsoft Doesn't Need to Finish Apple Off  miklv | 10/16/04
Stop screwing around and finish your homework.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 10/26/04
Just another M$ sycophant...  cafeoui | 12/29/04
Linux spells trouble for Microsoft Techies, not the Mac  Extraordinaire | 10/17/04
Mac was always in an uphill battle.....  realrdp@... | 10/19/04
Porting VB apps to Linux  galley | 10/19/04
link problem  galley | 10/19/04
Linux desktop taking off in Europe ...  George Mitchell | 10/20/04
It wouldn't bother me if it did.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 10/26/04
Well put.  The King's Servant | 10/28/04
Wordpress not work? Odd... works for me...  bahlberg | 11/04/04
"...finish off.."? Not soon...  cafeoui | 12/29/04
Linux certainly has a chance against OS X...  msalsbury | 10/11/05

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