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Someone told me that they planned to "Shove something: down my throat if I continued to use the Allah thing. So well
that just egged me on.

"All glory and praise to Allah"

Cleric jim; Posted by: Laff Posted on: 10/12/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Mac is the underdog, too. Kamikaze_Ohka | 10/12/04

Millionaires for Marx Anton Philidor | 10/12/04

Society will change... Kamikaze_Ohka | 10/19/04

Bush anyone? nomorems | 11/10/04

Why would Linux types want to kill off the Mac? rbethell | 10/12/04

Because.. d_jedi | 10/12/04

We often disagee...but I see a grain of truth in what Laff | 10/12/04

boneheaded conspiracy theory Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04

i agree eLurker | 10/12/04

WEll I did see Dich Chenney's lips move when GW Laff | 10/12/04

Neither extreme (way, way OT) rapson | 10/12/04

Oh My Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04

I would KILL to see a McCain/Powell ticket myself. Laff | 10/12/04

To Jeff rapson | 10/12/04

To Carl Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04

carl eLurker | 10/12/04

neither extreme etc. TokyoPete | 10/15/04

GWB not elitist? nomorems | 11/10/04

Relax..your favorite war criminal has less than 1 month left.. Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04

so you think eLurker | 10/12/04

Osama and Al-Qaeda WERE NOT responsible for 9/11! Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04

jeffy eLurker | 10/12/04

America's real problems CO_TechGuy | 10/12/04

Well the question is are we part of a global community Laff | 10/12/04

Now the question is, what does being in that community mean? CO_TechGuy | 10/12/04

And don't confuse a realization that being a good Laff | 10/12/04

ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU JIM Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04

To: Laff CO_TechGuy | 10/12/04

To: Jeff Spicoli CO_TechGuy | 10/12/04

To CO-TechGuy...thank you and to enjoy our exchange Laff | 10/13/04

Most comonly used phrase by Dubya... The King's Servant | 10/15/04

You're putting words in my mouth.. d_jedi | 10/12/04

its not that they want to ... its just a byproduct eLurker | 10/12/04

Perhaps but Linux commodity values will NEVER Laff | 10/12/04

what happened to loki? (nt) eLurker | 10/12/04

Someone told me that they planned to "Shove something Laff | 10/12/04

apples and oranges eLurker | 10/12/04

But in the end Apple is a hardware company. Laff | 10/12/04

yep eLurker | 10/12/04

Correction... doe_z | 10/12/04

Right on the money! Laff | 10/12/04

well... eLurker | 10/12/04

Yeah..and a lot of GW supporters don't have a Laff | 10/12/04

of course eLurker | 10/12/04

So by "HIGH" end you don't mean my kind of high Laff | 10/12/04

actually eLurker | 10/12/04

NO just a member in good standing of that Middle Laff | 10/12/04

Yeah, the middle class is REAL high end Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04

jeffy eLurker | 10/12/04

I think a big point is being missed rbochan | 10/12/04

Linux vs. Mac Anton Philidor | 10/12/04

MAC TCO Gary the Writer | 12/29/04

Win XP on Older Machine gsquared | 12/29/04

No one button mouse here Gary the Writer | 12/29/04

Finish it Off? htotten | 10/12/04

Well even "IF" Linux has surpassed Apple's market Laff | 10/12/04

Apple doesn't want to dominate openMind | 10/12/04

No good deed goes unpunished. Anton Philidor | 10/12/04

Or maybe they don't upgrade to the newest OS nor Laff | 10/12/04

Losing something? openMind | 10/13/04

Games gsquared | 12/29/04

Yeah, great marketing sceme, bad for consumers The King's Servant | 10/15/04

Frankly I think there is room for everyone. Laff | 10/12/04

When? seosamh_z | 10/12/04

We are in the process now...the shake out will become Laff | 10/12/04

Next few years seosamh_z | 10/12/04

The only one sure thing in life is there will be CHANGE! Laff | 10/12/04

Relax Mr. Scared, it's already been happening for a while now.. Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04

Dell & MS The King's Servant | 10/15/04

Only if patent issues are addressed. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

No_Ax == MSFT Astroturfer Chad_z | 10/12/04

I'm all for Linux Chad...but NO Linux is not going Laff | 10/12/04

MSFT? No, try Kodak. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

Quite true Michael Kelly | 10/12/04

Kodak needed no prompting. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

Kodaks' So-Called Patent is a Farce Kamikaze_Ohka | 10/13/04

Uh huh $92 million farce you mean. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/13/04

The Kodak patent issue would be applicable. B.O.F.H. | 10/12/04

Just one example out of hundreds. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

And what you're missing Chad_z | 10/12/04

I missed nothing, you on the other hand... No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

counter suit for breach of their patents hipparchus2000 | 10/12/04

Nope, I use nothing I don't have a LEGAL license for. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/13/04

a licence may or may not offer legal protection hipparchus2000 | 10/15/04

Will NEVER happen Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04

Jeff, it's not about MS/ No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

Isn't it amazing... PA-ITGuy | 10/12/04

Exactly! And, I don't think MS is the one to worry about. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

One $! billion dollar settlement by a user will be enough. Anton Philidor | 10/12/04

Just go after the distros. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

Even more amazing, don't listen to the experts. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

You're "right" Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04

How about some small company PA-ITGuy | 10/12/04

Exactly, and Jeff has no answer. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

Wish I were unemployed like yourself so I had all the time in the world Jeff Spicoli | 10/12/04

Hmmm, sucks to be you. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

Here's an idea, get some patents and retire. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

I more or less retired a few years ago at age 36 hipparchus2000 | 10/12/04

How about some small company none none | 10/12/04

Big difference though.. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/13/04

List all applicable patent issues. B.O.F.H. | 10/12/04

Last review showed there were at LEAST 283. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

Again... Michael Kelly | 10/12/04

Here you go. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

Note: This comes from an open source support group. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

but USPTO is a mess, this means nothing hipparchus2000 | 10/12/04

BOFH, is that what you wanted? No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

283 potential patents infringed upon B.O.F.H. | 10/12/04

The ZDNet version had more information... Anton Philidor | 10/12/04

BOFH doesn't listen to the experts. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

So where is the list of applicable patents? B.O.F.H. | 10/12/04

Go ask Pub Pat. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

Are you clueless? This was Pub. Pat. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

Are you also clueless? B.O.F.H. | 10/12/04

BOFH knows more than all the experts!!! No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

BOFH knows more.... hipparchus2000 | 10/12/04

more like WW III, nuclear armagendon voska | 10/12/04

Gee, Kodak JUST DID IT. No war... No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

Legit claims are fine voska | 10/12/04

Deep pockets? Hmmm, IBM, Red Hat, Suse... No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

No bad PR? Anton Philidor | 10/12/04

None at all... No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

Sure. Anton Philidor | 10/12/04

Trust me on this... No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

but if you get a community against you hipparchus2000 | 10/12/04

Not if I don't live in the community... No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/13/04

not living in the community .. hipparchus2000 | 10/15/04

Guess You Missed the Novell Announcement htotten | 10/12/04

No_Ax is just confused. B.O.F.H. | 10/12/04

So then, you think Linus T. and Bruce P. are stupid? No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

I just love how you cling to things, it's so cute! B.O.F.H. | 10/12/04

For crying out loud, this has NOTHING to do with SCO. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

Why are you mentioning SCO Group? B.O.F.H. | 10/12/04

What are *YOU* talking about? No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

BOFH, let me help you... No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

Who cares? I mean if they want to get sued too fine. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/04

patent nuclear war hipparchus2000 | 10/12/04

Nope, I don't use ANY software from IBM. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/13/04

say IBM has a patent on, say file-save hipparchus2000 | 10/15/04

Merge Linux & Mac tero_t_vaananen@... | 10/12/04

I don't think so...... Laff | 10/12/04

What he said... PA-ITGuy | 10/12/04

Merge what, exactly? Jkirk3279 | 10/12/04

No offense to Macs of course but xiter88 | 12/03/04

The X Factor Gary the Writer | 12/29/04

Merge Linux & Mac manub | 10/12/04

Think about this a bit more hipparchus2000 | 10/12/04

This is the deal tero_t_vaananen@... | 10/13/04

Use the proper OS for the project requirements... JonathonDoe | 10/12/04

It certainly will! Crash2100 | 10/12/04

Nope...same old arugement about Apple's demise Laff | 10/12/04

Please go outside to smoke... ~rpb~ | 10/12/04

It is just a matter of time... xiter88 | 12/02/04

It certainly will! twhitt | 10/12/04

Macs cost more? ~rpb~ | 10/12/04

Well to be fair to the expensive outlook from people Laff | 10/12/04

I'll say again... ~rpb~ | 10/12/04

I'm agreeing with most of what you say, if not all Laff | 10/12/04

Toyota or BMW AdeOghert | 10/12/04

Toyota? huffma | 10/13/04

White box not high end? d_jedi | 10/12/04

The problem here is a failure to understand.. htotten | 10/12/04

How about . . . openMind | 10/12/04

Mac only the beginning.... Anton Philidor | 10/12/04

Too much generalization ... MacCanuck | 10/12/04

Sometimes you're right Anton Philidor | 10/12/04

Not more expensive openMind | 10/13/04

Last longer? PA-ITGuy | 10/12/04

Price of the box is not an issue for corporations Fred Fredrickson | 10/12/04

You're arguing paying for a Name voska | 10/12/04

Apple mainframe? Fred Fredrickson | 10/12/04

I agree . . . openMind | 10/13/04

What are YOU smoking? Roger Ramjet | 10/12/04

Do you even know what you're talking about? openMind | 10/12/04

What are YOU smoking? mrlinux | 10/12/04

Roger... ~rpb~ | 10/12/04

Total cost of ownership twhitt | 10/12/04

Longevity openMind | 10/12/04

Cost = Features Serpamac | 12/29/04