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Alternatives are bad.
``It's easy to claim parity with Windows, but a lot harder to deliver. There is no evidence presented here of either,..''

I assume you have some tangible technical information to provide that clarifies which system is better and in what aspects. Can you provide it?


``just a cutesy claim that MacOS X (the awe-inspiring 2% market share entry) is somehow more advanced than Windows and is now the target! LOL!!!''

Do you claim that 2% market share implies technical inferiority? Can you show then us how did you reach this 'conclusion' ?


``Linux will go nowhere on the desktop without finding some marketing Moses to lead them out of the desert. They have been wandering for about 10 years now, so they would have about 30 years to go!''

It is becoming more evident that MS will be needing a Moses to take them out of their increasingly unwieldy situation. They can not even make a PATCH right even though it takes them for ever and when they do it creates more trouble than without it. Let alone the simple fact that they are announcing their next 'best' PC os to be released after 2-3 years (which in MS speak means 4-5 and 7-8 until they get it right...)

Even a small pool of students with miniscule resources can produce a modern OS in 1-2 years time.

Regardless of MS's screw ups, the GUI part on Linux/UNIX has been improving steadily. And at the moment it is very stable, robust and capable to deliver high quality results. How did you miss that?

-m
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Easy enough to do.  Letophoro | 09/15/04
The most significant point  Chad_z | 09/15/04
They are the leader still  amicus_curious | 09/15/04
Appals is the OS to catch up with  voska | 09/15/04
Illegal monopoly gives numerical advantage, NOT INNOVATION LEADERSHIP (NT)  Update victim | 09/15/04
Being the market leader IS innovation.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
Being market leader is marketing  voska | 09/15/04
Give it up No_Ax  Chad_z | 09/15/04
Hardly  Spoon Jabber | 09/15/04
Too much innovation  Roger Ramjet | 09/15/04
in Microsoft's case...  ryusen | 09/15/04
Innovative marketing is just that  The King's Servant | 09/15/04
Silly season!  amicus_curious | 09/15/04
when you consider how long it's take MS  voska | 09/15/04
Not impressive at all  amicus_curious | 09/15/04
I think Linux is more innovative by far than for example MS  hipparchus2000 | 09/15/04
That copycat arguement has been used against MS!  Laff | 09/15/04
Microsoft, a convicted predatory monopolist with absolution by the DOJ(NT)  Update victim | 09/15/04
You are a dunderhead  Roger Ramjet | 09/15/04
it's real easy...  ryusen | 09/15/04
the key is getting ms to allow OEMs to sell it  V Sanders | 09/15/04
Are you stuck in 1997?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
To a point  voska | 09/15/04
Simply not true.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
actually that happens more than youd think  doh123 | 09/15/04
Following anothers path is ALWAYS easier.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
almost as easy as being given exclusive rights at stage one...  ryusen | 09/15/04
Yup, first one to market comes out ahead.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
in other words,...  ryusen | 09/15/04
And so does Microsoft.  Patrick Jones | 09/15/04
and then you go and spoil it by not backing up YOUR figures  hipparchus2000 | 09/15/04
You're right, he exaggerated  PA-ITGuy | 09/15/04
smaller %, larger user base  doh123 | 09/15/04
and this says 3.2%  hipparchus2000 | 09/15/04
and you should compare apples and oranges  hipparchus2000 | 09/15/04
Holy Moss's BATMAN!?!  Laff | 09/15/04
Wrong perspective  hayesk | 09/15/04
Oh, really?  Chad_z | 09/15/04
Alternatives are bad.  michael-t | 09/15/04
It's been a looooong time since I've tried Gnome...  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
I Forsee a Showbiz Future for Waugh  P. Douglas | 09/15/04
Oh I won't argue with you there  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
Agree Mr. Kelly  Tim Patterson | 09/15/04
I would have argued with you, Michael, ...  Judas I. | 09/15/04
Do it!  Linux User 147560 | 09/15/04
Currently, only one thing stops me ...  Judas I. | 09/15/04
I agree  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
can't argue there...  ryusen | 09/15/04
true  doh123 | 09/15/04
What I want to know is...  PA-ITGuy | 09/15/04
Good question..I don't know. Anybody?  Laff | 09/15/04
It's still a nightmare at least with video cards  voska | 09/15/04
Don't support anything but your own hardware  Chad_z | 09/15/04
Not certain I agree..but even "IF" you  Laff | 09/15/04
yes, Worldwide  doh123 | 09/15/04
Not true! Apple will be number 2 again.  The King's Servant | 09/15/04
Hee hee hee...Good POINT:)  Laff | 09/16/04
Why is that such a chore?  agramont@... | 09/15/04
SuSE 9.1 Pro...  Linux User 147560 | 09/15/04
And really...  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
Why?!?!  PA-ITGuy | 09/15/04
The answer to your original question though  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
Haven't see that problem for a while  voska | 09/15/04
Because..  d_jedi | 09/15/04
Windows is the same...  Patrick Jones | 09/15/04
Actually...  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
Same thing with Linux  voska | 09/15/04
There's a slight difference  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
Not quite  PA-ITGuy | 09/15/04
New distros give you basic SVGA  voska | 09/15/04
i swapped video cards...  doh123 | 09/15/04
What is the difference?  Patrick Jones | 09/15/04
The difference is...  PA-ITGuy | 09/15/04
Assisstance..  Patrick Jones | 09/16/04
Depends on which card.  The King's Servant | 09/15/04
If you use the VESA driver for Linux, it will work on any *VGA screen  hipparchus2000 | 09/15/04
but vesa linux is better than vga16 windows as it gives more modes  hipparchus2000 | 09/15/04
Its a major sore point which needs to be addressed by the distros!  George Mitchell | 09/15/04
Some advice  Roger Ramjet | 09/16/04
hmmm - ms could do that too  V Sanders | 09/15/04
When did Gnome  Linux User 147560 | 09/15/04
I never liked Gnome's look either  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
I think neither feel customisable enough to me  hipparchus2000 | 09/15/04
All a Matter of opinion  nucrash | 09/15/04
for years I used tkdesk  hipparchus2000 | 09/15/04
Why the jab at Swing?  agramont@... | 09/15/04
Empty claims without proof  balsover | 09/15/04
That's why you test the software  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
That's why you test the software  Loverock Davidson | 09/15/04
(nt)Gnoppix?  d_jedi | 09/16/04
Never said King  The King's Servant | 09/15/04
Re: Empty claims without proof  stevo32 | 09/16/04
Gnome has taken over nothing  jimk_z | 09/15/04
Apple to Gnome  FilledOut | 09/16/04
Yes, Apple should cooperate with Gnome and Vice Versa.  MarkyGoldstein | 09/20/04

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