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No_Ax, until now I had you pegged as a seemingly level-headed...
Microsoft apologist, one that understood the difference between
really choosing and "accepting the inevitable". Consider this
for a moment. People don't really choose Windows because
they like it. I work at a computer shop and see people
all the time complaining about how their "computer" always
seems to have something wrong with it. It's invariably a
Windows machine.

I know, I'm not seeing the 90+% of people who aren't having
problems, right? Suppose I grant you that. I see no reason not
to. It's irrelevant to my point anyway. Those who are comming
in with problems, I've asked a few of them if they've tried
Linux. Invariably I get "what's Linux?", so I show them. Ubuntu
Feisty Fawn on a live CD. They always take to it like a fish to
water, however, they never seem to want it on their computers.

Any guesses why? They like what Ubuntu offers, so why do
they refuse? The answer always sound something like this. "I'm
just used to using Windows. It'd take too long to learn
something new." Getting the message? It's not about real
choice. Until I told them, they didn't even know they had one.
And once they knew, they still chose what they were
accustomed to
over what they merely liked.

Despite the problems they're having with Windows, they "accept
the inevitable" fact that switching to linux is a change from
what they're accustomed to. People hate change when it doesn't
come in small enough increments. So they'd rather continue
dealing with their problems than to try something new.

Understand what I'm trying to tell you?
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What a LIAR !  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/07
Using force of govt for their own gain  otaddy | 12/14/07
Not just users, OEMs too.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/07
what are you babbling about?  Linux Geek | 12/14/07
Please shut up with your fake statements  GuidingLight | 12/14/07
Honestly, you have to feel sorry for him.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/07
LOL!!!!!!!!!!  socialism=nowhere | 12/17/07
He's stuck in a Windows World  davidsarmstrong | 12/17/07
I can always spot an MS Fan Boy  davidsarmstrong | 12/17/07
Your "babbling" is so silly  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/07
They choose the computer, not the OS  magcomment | 12/14/07
At least 50% of the 90% of Microsoft users  Ole Man | 12/16/07
And you learned that where? Let me guess...  xuniL_z | 12/17/07
Silly is as silly does (and says)  Ole Man | 12/17/07
Not lost on me Ole Man  xuniL_z | 12/18/07
Oh please....  socialism=nowhere | 12/17/07
DUDE YOUR SO FUNNY  rob_2402kw@... | 12/17/07
Laff while you can!  Ole Man | 12/17/07
You miss the POINT Ole Man.  xuniL_z | 12/18/07
But where do these statistical numbers come from  Boot_Agnostic | 12/17/07
His Butt...that's where  socialism=nowhere | 12/17/07
Windows users attack, Linux Users write  davidsarmstrong | 12/17/07
No_Ax, until now I had you pegged as a seemingly level-headed...  kingmph@... | 12/17/07
Users don't care!!!  MicroNix | 12/16/07
AMEN - brother it's one of his typical responses.  socialism=nowhere | 12/17/07
One small problem with you argument  davidsarmstrong | 12/17/07
Where have you been ??? - you don't have  socialism=nowhere | 12/17/07
What a LIAR  DemonX | 12/14/07
Its called competition...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/07
it's called UNFAIR competition  stevey_d | 12/16/07
So... when you buy a GM car?  nucrash | 12/17/07
That's because you have choice  davidsarmstrong | 12/17/07
I know this. I went to the.....  xuniL_z | 12/17/07
Apple doesn't have monopoly  davidsarmstrong | 12/17/07
Windows does? I thought everyone was saying  xuniL_z | 12/18/07
Can you use something else -  socialism=nowhere | 12/17/07
But then what happens when the EU  GuidingLight | 12/14/07
That's why they are where they are!  socialism=nowhere | 12/17/07
What?  ego.sum.stig@... | 12/14/07
Why should anything be in the OS  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/07
Well...  ego.sum.stig@... | 12/14/07
Be reasonable  wolf_z | 12/15/07
What a lot of excuses  ego.sum.stig@... | 12/15/07
You've polled them?  CobraA1 | 12/14/07
I have a poll for you  osreinstall | 12/16/07
Apparently you can't read.  CobraA1 | 12/16/07
I can read. You just cannot accept the answer.  osreinstall | 12/16/07
You thought wrong.  CobraA1 | 12/16/07
You can't even think.  osreinstall | 12/17/07
How does the user benefit when most time is spent fixing problems?  CobraA1 | 12/17/07
User doesn't fix problems. Webmasters do.  osreinstall | 12/17/07
no, really?  CobraA1 | 12/17/07
I am glad you agree. For a minute, I was wondering.  osreinstall | 12/17/07
Netscape died because of  BroGnorik | 12/17/07
BroGnorik, it was bad at one point.  osreinstall | 12/17/07
We agree on some points.  CobraA1 | 12/17/07
Most folks do unless you are Vily.  osreinstall | 12/17/07
re: Most folks do unless you are Vily.  CobraA1 | 12/18/07
Standards are nothing but voluntary.  osreinstall | 12/18/07
We're agreeing more now  CobraA1 | 12/18/07
Yes we are.  osreinstall | 12/18/07
anyways  CobraA1 | 12/18/07
Have a good one.  osreinstall | 12/18/07
I Don't want to do no stupid research  windozefreak | 12/17/07
DO YOU WANT TO THROW A CHAIR? HILARIOUS!!!  NonZealot | 12/14/07
I'm a user and I'm complaining  davidsarmstrong | 12/17/07
Microsoft strikes back at Opera antitrust claims  Loverock Davidson | 12/14/07
Served?  ego.sum.stig@... | 12/14/07
Since you don't understand slang  Loverock Davidson | 12/14/07
How sad, never mind...  ego.sum.stig@... | 12/14/07
Don't get mad at me  Loverock Davidson | 12/14/07
Newsflash!  ego.sum.stig@... | 12/14/07
Davidson  davidsarmstrong | 12/17/07
Funny how that law of physics  xuniL_z | 12/18/07
You don't have a choice, it always uses Internet Explorer...  olePigeon | 12/14/07
Dear Old Squab  Confused by religion | 12/14/07
Outlook Express...  olePigeon | 12/14/07
Nope.  BroGnorik | 12/17/07
Care to invalidate any other points I made...  olePigeon | 12/14/07
You DO have a choice  Loverock Davidson | 12/14/07
Totally right!  NonZealot | 12/14/07
MM?  nucrash | 12/17/07
You know, you're making a grave error...  wolf_z | 12/15/07
Don't use them...there's crap on TV...do you want  socialism=nowhere | 12/17/07
Yeah, tak it off the air  Dumber_z | 12/17/07
You don't have a choice, it always uses Internet Explorer???  rob_2402kw@... | 12/17/07
Pure Bunk  windozefreak | 12/17/07
When you can't compete...  itpro_z | 12/14/07
Excellent post. Spot On !!! (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/07
opera wants to compete fairly  Linux Geek | 12/14/07
Now you are making no sense.  itpro_z | 12/14/07
Rarely does...  socialism=nowhere | 12/17/07
Does it bother you...  BFD | 12/14/07
Your joking, right?  CaryRW@... | 12/17/07
You're completely missing the point...  olePigeon | 12/14/07
Outlook integrated?  Confused by religion | 12/14/07
Outlook Express, and I didn't say it was integrated...  olePigeon | 12/14/07
How are you being forced?  itpro_z | 12/14/07
Outlook Express, and Microsoft goes beyond bundling...  olePigeon | 12/14/07
I'm not so sure  itpro_z | 12/14/07
You CAN replace Explorer, if you want.  wolf_z | 12/15/07
Just don't use it.  osreinstall | 12/16/07
...  socialism=nowhere | 12/17/07
There you go again with that lie  windozefreak | 12/17/07
Oh my, I agree with no_ax happy  magcomment | 12/14/07
VERY WELL SAID and DEAD-ON  socialism=nowhere | 12/17/07
Wish the company would poll the users  Boot_Agnostic | 12/14/07
RE: Microsoft strikes back at Opera antitrust claims  Chemicalzen | 12/14/07
Now that worries me...  ego.sum.stig@... | 12/14/07
Why is it that whenever a post starts with "I am not a big fan of Microsoft  nilotpal_c | 12/15/07
Here is your OS  supercharlie | 12/14/07
Is bundeling a browser that bad?  deramin@... | 12/14/07
It's not the bundling that's the problem...  olePigeon | 12/14/07
You also forget that Micro$ux is a convicted monopolist  NonZealot | 12/14/07
"You're stuck with what they give you"  itpro_z | 12/14/07
Go in to control panel And I believe you can  windozefreak | 12/17/07
Heck, I think all the devices with a browser interface  Boot_Agnostic | 12/14/07
RE: Microsoft strikes back at Opera antitrust claims  isdsgdasp | 12/14/07
B$!!  BroGnorik | 12/17/07
Microsoft is bad for the free market  imguest0@... | 12/14/07
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz  socialism=nowhere | 12/17/07
RE: Microsoft strikes back at Opera antitrust claims  CobraA1 | 12/14/07
RE: Microsoft strikes back at Opera antitrust claims  bkreps | 12/15/07
Vista doesn't use IE for updates  wolf_z | 12/15/07
Then us another software.  windozefreak | 12/17/07
Bundling Is Only A Perception, Not A Reality  lmenningen | 12/15/07
bad analogy  stevey_d | 12/16/07
Think about it  Windows Defender | 12/15/07
Thinking about it...  ego.sum.stig@... | 12/15/07
I would work around it.  osreinstall | 12/16/07
My apologies...  ego.sum.stig@... | 12/16/07
Apoligy not accepted.  osreinstall | 12/16/07
And not to be outdone...  ego.sum.stig@... | 12/17/07
Good luck.  osreinstall | 12/17/07
And you....  xuniL_z | 12/17/07
Jeeze xuniL_z  osreinstall | 12/17/07
And what pray tell...  ego.sum.stig@... | 12/17/07
If you must know  xuniL_z | 12/18/07
If you can get one of the OEMs to verify  windozefreak | 12/17/07
I see why they are sueing...  socialism=nowhere | 12/17/07
Who are the LIARS? Microsoft.  james.faction | 12/17/07
RE: Microsoft strikes back at Opera antitrust claims  rayearle | 12/17/07
WRONG!!  BroGnorik | 12/17/07
Opera Doesn't Meet Standards  msackett | 12/17/07
RE: Microsoft strikes back at Opera antitrust claims  BlazingEagle | 12/17/07
Opera need to get Real  imb@... | 12/18/07
For those posting their figures as facts but not links  Boot_Agnostic | 12/18/07
Go ride on somone elses coat tails.  astefl@... | 12/18/07
Throw this case out  John Musbach | 12/20/07
Ridiculous  santuccie | 12/24/07

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