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What is to reverse engineer?
A patent is supposed to disclose the idea in exchange for a monopoly. By that definition, there is nothing to reverse engineer. You don't patent a file type, you patent an invention.
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Hmmm, how did they get around the patents?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/23/06
licensign maybe?  st!lborn | 06/23/06
licencing is not same  IceTheNet@... | 06/26/06
It is a comercial product that reads the ntfs partitions. But, even then,  DonnieBoy | 06/23/06
YOour opinion didn't matter to the Patent Office.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/23/06
Unless he's on the jury...  GG4rest | 06/26/06
Copy this, paste, get laugh  Bill4 | 06/23/06
Thanks for the chuckle happy (nt)  LoCal | 06/26/06
...but it's different when HE does it! (nt)  Zeppo9191 | 07/31/06
Was thinking the same thing  voska | 06/23/06
NTFS  Anti_Zealot | 06/23/06
From the article..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/23/06
Don, its fully licensed ...  George Mitchell | 06/23/06
Do you think he really cares that it's fully licenced or not?  mobrien_12@... | 06/23/06
Thanks for the product information.  LoCal | 06/26/06
I'm sure it does ....  fredsmith6 | 06/24/06
patents allow reverse-engineering  Scott W | 06/25/06
What is to reverse engineer?  GG4rest | 06/26/06
Re: NTFS  UserLand | 06/23/06
re. Your second link  LoCal | 06/26/06
Nope- this is the real deal  Steve Z | 06/26/06
NTFS  richdave | 06/26/06
I use Debian Sarge  IceTheNet@... | 06/26/06
Read again.  thetargos | 06/26/06
Please explain  Taz_z | 06/23/06
Depends how writing is defined.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/23/06
Sorry, NA ...  Linux_4u! | 06/23/06
Dead link...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/23/06
Link works  markbn | 06/25/06
Irrelevant  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/23/06
Which patents?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/23/06
Enjoy yourself.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/23/06
In other words  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/23/06
In other words..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/24/06
Enjoy yourself  oldfellow | 06/24/06
Copy/paste the entire string.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/24/06
You don't know how to do Hyperlinks correctly?  B.O.F.H. | 06/25/06
Paragon Software is a Microsoft Gold Cerified Partner  leguirerj | 06/23/06
Could be MS allowed their  John Zern | 06/23/06
You may be right.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/24/06
The patent is on the code not the format  lostinlodos | 06/24/06
AllOfMP3  JulesLt | 06/28/06
Patents  X41 | 06/25/06
Ask Paragon  bryantrv | 06/26/06
Maybe not important  DemonX | 06/26/06
Reverse Engineering?  JulesLt | 06/27/06
Great to see more choice. We will laugh about the days that everybody used  DonnieBoy | 06/23/06
True,  Salman Pak | 06/23/06
I think it will happen over night  voska | 06/23/06
But that's just it: It'a allways..  John Zern | 06/23/06
I know...BUT  Northwolf | 06/24/06
very true  DemonX | 06/26/06
And  DemonX | 06/26/06
The one recurring thing I hear on these forums...  mdsmedia | 06/24/06
Lots has come of it  voska | 06/26/06
Ooookay ...  fredsmith6 | 06/24/06
MS has already screwed up...  mdsmedia | 06/24/06
Even more insidiously...  Anton Philidor | 06/25/06
LOL now that's funny  voska | 06/26/06
RE: Even more insidiously...  richdave | 06/26/06
True - or maybe false  oldfellow | 06/24/06
Interesting point, BUT  mustangj36@... | 06/25/06
Intersting point  oldfellow | 06/26/06
Huh, no one laughed at Unix. (Or it's various flavors)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/23/06
The difference, is you can have variety with compatibility. There is one  DonnieBoy | 06/23/06
But the parts to make it run  John Zern | 06/23/06
Just like cars do not need interchangable parts, the just need to run on  DonnieBoy | 06/24/06
Why copy from the worst?  Reverend MacFellow | 06/23/06
Comfort Zone is why  voska | 06/23/06
OpenSource Windows 2000  John Zern | 06/23/06
Becaue much of the code is still in Windows for legacy support.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/23/06
There is no DOS code in the NT/2000/XP line.  PB_z | 06/23/06
Good Point  John Zern | 06/23/06
Not really ....  fredsmith6 | 06/23/06
True, it's in the VM...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/24/06
It is not a shell, it is a command interpreter.  B.O.F.H. | 06/24/06
As if it makes a difference.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/25/06
Open Source is a development methedology.  B.O.F.H. | 06/24/06
And the sky is blue...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/24/06
What could be open sourced?  Steve Z | 06/26/06
Barrier to Entry  baggins_z | 06/26/06
RE: Barrier to Entry  richdave | 06/26/06
Just Like Microsoft did to Novell  voska | 06/26/06
only copying the looks  royalstream | 06/26/06
Clearly  ahy-nonimous | 06/27/06
Just advertise and be welcoming  Boot_Agnostic | 06/23/06
RE: Just advertise and be welcoming  richdave | 06/23/06
Truly AMAZING !  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 06/23/06
You have to BUY Windows for the Mac.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/23/06
RE: You have to BUY Windows for the Mac.  richdave | 06/26/06
Message has been deleted.  John Zern | 06/23/06
Look and feel  tic swayback | 06/23/06
The desktop Linux SHOULD be building!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/23/06
Horrible  DarthRidiculous | 06/23/06
Hmmmm. Windows seemed to have gained  John Zern | 06/23/06
John Zern that has been  Intellihence | 06/26/06
I did it  oldfellow | 06/26/06
Vista remarks  bigjohnt@... | 06/26/06
Why is Bill Gates tepping down  clockmendergb@... | 06/27/06
What's wrong with it?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/24/06
Oh, great.  John Zern | 06/23/06
Yes, but that is how people work.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/24/06
interesting  jimk_z | 06/26/06
Looks like one of those ideas ...  fredsmith6 | 06/24/06
Maybe, but I'd like to give it a try.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/24/06
That desktop reminds me of Microsoft Bob  B.O.F.H. | 06/24/06
Yes and no...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/24/06
Xandros is just a distrib targetting the desktop.  B.O.F.H. | 06/24/06
And my point remains valid.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/24/06
maybe its marketing  IndredKold | 06/26/06
What ever happened to Looking Glass  zmud | 06/26/06
Looks great, I'd use it  voska | 06/26/06
Greatest already available  kaitech | 06/26/06
Is it a joke?  bmackie@... | 06/27/06
Nice idea  NemesisNL | 06/23/06
change for the sake of change is not good.  jimk_z | 06/26/06
even better  shryko | 07/16/06
even better  shryko | 07/16/06
Waste of time...  Mike Cox | 06/23/06
Very convincing  luke_sg | 06/23/06
Waste of time-or maybe not  oldfellow | 06/24/06
Mike , Mike , Mike , where have you been hiding at you cockaroach ?  Intellihence | 06/26/06
Oh come on now....  UncleBubba | 06/26/06
Hope you have a big hardware budget, Mike.  jgmsys@... | 06/26/06
Welcome back!!  Steve Z | 06/26/06
Waste of time....yes Mike you are  drichards1953 | 06/26/06
Windows-friendly still unsuccessfully  mjbad2 | 06/23/06
RE: Windows-friendly still unsuccessfully  richdave | 06/23/06
silly post  mobrien_12@... | 06/23/06
I don't think that's what he was saying  fredsmith6 | 06/24/06
Message has been deleted.  code_Warrior | 06/23/06
@%*&@ etc  oldfellow | 06/24/06
Linux is still free, that hasn't changed  OhMyGosh | 06/26/06
It IS free  baylors | 06/27/06
Its about time  htor63 | 06/24/06
Worst of both worlds  Chad_z | 06/24/06
Windows-friendly desktop Linux launches  Loverock Davidson | 06/24/06
You are corrupt...  Linux_Fanboy | 06/24/06
Lovie , Lovie , Lovie , where have you been hiding you cockaroach ?  Intellihence | 06/26/06
Why Linux on the desktop doesn't work.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/24/06
What Linux Doesn't Offer  Gene01 | 06/24/06
What Linux Offers:  linuxiac | 06/26/06
Logical like the law of gravity  Himagain2 | 06/27/06
I don't think that's the reason  stevey_d | 06/24/06
However  Sabz5150 | 06/24/06
you aren't listening  stevey_d | 06/25/06
Sabz, you misunderstand.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/25/06
Linux at work  SouthernPride. | 06/25/06
Oh look the cockaroach tells the truth now .  Intellihence | 06/26/06
95% in the US  TripleII | 06/26/06
Windows Friendly Linux?  hoiatl | 06/26/06
linux  EBRISCOE_2000@... | 07/05/06
OK.... then...  redtrain65 | 06/26/06
It's not about features of the OS  GG4rest | 06/26/06
No_Ax Linux is not for the masses like Mac OS X .  Intellihence | 06/26/06
You mean: "Why Linux desktop doesn't work FOR MASS MARKET"  George Mitchell | 06/26/06
Don't forget, SCHOOL KIDS!!!  linuxiac | 06/26/06
Why saying that doesn't make it more true  TripleII | 06/26/06
What Asia uses is of no value to me  voska | 06/26/06
Reason to switch  Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 06/26/06
The REAL costs?  linuxiac | 06/26/06
Linux on the desktop = SUCCE$$!  linuxiac | 06/26/06
I have been using distros that...  Linux_Fanboy | 06/24/06
Gee  TonyMcS | 06/25/06
To Linux_Fanboy  oldfellow | 06/26/06
Linux users guilty of sabotage  ITTech001 | 06/24/06
*Some* guilty, most not  OhMyGosh | 06/26/06
Linux distro's come and go to quick  SouthernPride. | 06/24/06
Isn't it awesome? Competition rocks!!  OhMyGosh | 06/26/06
Multi-Media support is the Linux weak spot  SouthernPride. | 06/24/06
Just use VLC Player  OhMyGosh | 06/26/06
Its getting better, but you have a very good point ...  George Mitchell | 06/26/06
"easyubuntu" makes linux mulitmedia installation painless  ~doolittle~ | 06/26/06
Warning, Car analogy ahead.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/25/06
Customizations.  Anton Philidor | 06/25/06
Warning, cheese question ahead  OhMyGosh | 06/26/06
Cheese is very important  voska | 06/26/06
Actually  Michael Kelly | 06/26/06
Vista vapour ware  voska | 06/26/06
Great Idea  danielszabo1981 | 06/25/06
Anyone actually go and read the features?  TonyMcS | 06/25/06
Windows Cheap?  Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 06/26/06
HUGE Features Lists!  linuxiac | 06/26/06
I don't get you people sometimes....  silverwolf761 | 06/26/06
My friend  Intellihence | 06/26/06
That's precisely my point...  silverwolf761 | 06/26/06
ROFL  LeeC | 06/26/06
Users need education on computing  Boot_Agnostic | 06/26/06
'Exclusive' groups of helpers!  linuxiac | 06/26/06
you're quite the good samaritan then.....  silverwolf761 | 06/26/06
Hmmmmmmm  Shelendrea | 06/26/06
why would I?  duce99@... | 06/26/06
Too bad they didn?t use Gnome...  fernando.cassia@... | 06/26/06
Finally, a decent alternative to Windows!  friedcow | 06/26/06
Happy customer  bryantrv | 06/26/06
Some people need training wheels  John L. Ries | 06/26/06
Choice  Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 06/26/06
Windows Friendly? Why?  linuxiac | 06/26/06
Why? Newbie's reply...  interested_amateur@... | 06/26/06
irony  gigadiva@... | 06/26/06
windows friendly linux  tonyh8slv | 06/26/06
Xandros 4 = RIP OFF  WebThingy | 06/26/06
Good post ! (nt)  Castanet | 06/26/06
Utter Nonsense!  waldos_here | 11/23/06
...so GIVE oem's the $ incentive  Castanet | 06/26/06
Good points  WebThingy | 06/27/06
Cybersource had a great idea  Steve Z | 06/27/06
Windows friendly?  shorty943@... | 03/13/07
Innovations come from many areas  Boot_Agnostic | 06/27/06
Xandros  ageraldo | 06/27/06
Nothing's more Windows friendly than Windows.  christopherborne@... | 06/27/06
ReactOS  Castanet | 06/27/06
Hey, Xandros is really good ...  davetracer@... | 06/27/06
A Perfect Subject For The Experiment  Himagain2 | 06/27/06
Product activation  pollycat | 07/01/06

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