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Haterock, You're No Loverock
I know Loverock, and ...

Anyway, what does the existence of an exploit mean? There were security holes, there probably ARE security holes, and Apple admits them.

What does this have to do with Microsoft? Did I defend Microsoft? The JScript exploit and the slow response troubles me a lot. On the other hand, in my experience, it is not a stable exploit; I have only got it to work under special conditions from the PoC site. Otherwise it is a DoS attack, one that also crashes Firefox.

Admission: although I was "raised Mac" with a Macintosh 128 before they were called 128s, I recognize the Mac platform for what it is: a fanboy niche. My family still uses Macs, and so I play with them quite often. Not impressed in the least.

You're a fanboy: that you have in common with Loverock. But you are derivative, not an original. Come up with an original moniker instead of knocking off somebody else.
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COOL...you just have to love the patch BEFORE the problem!  Laff | 11/30/05
F*ck That, I Love The Nimrod ZDNet Poster  nikoli | 11/30/05
Well if there are no exploits then you are and will be wrong!  Laff | 11/30/05
I think you miss the point somewhat  phogue@... | 11/30/05
I don't think there are exploits cause that WOULD be news!  Laff | 11/30/05
Exicting exploits  phogue@... | 11/30/05
I agree in total and to your last point..that is why I use the Mac.  Laff | 11/30/05
I agree in total and to your last point..that is why I use the Mac.  Laff | 11/30/05
Bottom line...  gfeier | 11/30/05
gfeier...  nikoli | 11/30/05
It's extremely difficult to hack a Mac....  Mikael_z | 11/30/05
Care to restate?  NonZealot | 11/30/05
APay him no mind Non-Zealot as..  John Zern | 11/30/05
No, we have a REAL sense of security.  Haterock Davidsfather | 11/30/05
Hard To Hack Mac Unless You Use These Holes?  PMC-CON | 11/30/05
Haterock, So The Safari Holes and Webkit Don't Count?  PMC-CON | 11/30/05
Message has been deleted.  Haterock Davidsfather | 11/30/05
Haterock, You're No Loverock  PMC-CON | 11/30/05
All aboaaaaard. The ignorance train is leaving!  toadlife | 01/07/06
Or perhaps  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 11/30/05
Famous for hacking Macs?????  phogue@... | 12/01/05
Why not target Macs?  timoute | 12/01/05
Why get know for creating illegal code?  phogue@... | 12/01/05
Only adds ammunition to the "biggest target" theory  NonZealot | 11/30/05
I agree  phogue@... | 11/30/05
Complacent MacOS users  jimkahnw | 11/30/05
Auto Update  phogue@... | 11/30/05
The only AV any of the Nix's  Linux Advocate | 11/30/05
Macs Firewall  phogue@... | 12/01/05
Too much effort  mbrierley | 11/30/05
I don't think I disagree with the biggest target claim however  Laff | 11/30/05
Overconfident..naw! PLEASED....yup!  Laff | 11/30/05
10.4 upgrade is biggest threat...  mmckee58 | 11/30/05
Trust me Gates needs no leasons on getting away with MURDER!!!  Laff | 11/30/05
10.4 upgrade is biggest threat...  phogue@... | 11/30/05
Apple's famous for that  John Zern | 11/30/05
Where are your facts?  Rick_K | 12/01/05
Huh?  tic swayback | 11/30/05
a reliable source...possibly...  mmckee58 | 12/06/05
a reliable source...possibly...  mmckee58 | 12/06/05
a reliable source...possibly...  mmckee58 | 12/06/05
Biggest target theory has some validity,  georgep_z | 11/30/05
lots of factors  MacKeyser | 11/30/05
Just for the recoed  phogue@... | 12/01/05
You're kidding, right?  toadlife | 01/07/06
Other reasons  tic swayback | 11/30/05
Thanks for the response  NonZealot | 11/30/05
Huh?  Len Rooney | 11/30/05
I just wish you were generally nicer and had a great day  Boot_Agnostic | 11/30/05
Hehe, you made me chuckle  NonZealot | 11/30/05
Speculation  tic swayback | 11/30/05
Hacking Windows because they hate Microsoft???  phogue@... | 11/30/05
Not all exploits are for profit  tic swayback | 11/30/05
RE: Not all exploits are for profit  phogue@... | 12/01/05
How do you know?  tic swayback | 12/01/05
The "Target with Gaping Security Holes" Theory  buddhistMonkey | 11/30/05
Re: The "Target with Gaping Security Holes" Theory  phogue@... | 12/01/05
Marketshare?  Fred Fredrickson | 12/01/05
"biggest target" theory FLAWED  Hard Cider | 12/03/05
Even you need to admit  IT Scion | 11/30/05
Not really  tic swayback | 11/30/05
Weren't  IT Scion | 12/01/05
Do other companies do this?  tic swayback | 12/01/05
Somewhat unrealistic  Fred Fredrickson | 12/01/05
Beware of complacency  Carrion | 11/30/05
Beware of Complacency  phogue@... | 11/30/05
I agree completely...  Carrion | 11/30/05
Without defintitions, AV software is useless  tic swayback | 11/30/05
AV software  mbrierley | 12/01/05
Re: Without defintitions, AV software is useless  phogue@... | 12/01/05
I run AV as well  tic swayback | 12/01/05
Doh!  mbrierley | 04/18/06
Security is a Process, NOT AN END  deanoa | 11/30/05
No one can start a process without asking for....  Mikael_z | 11/30/05
*nix like OSX is still more secure than windows  jtoppi | 11/30/05
I think that assumpition is incorrect...  ju1ce | 12/01/05
So is that one  Fred Fredrickson | 12/01/05
WHY SUCH PATCHES MAKE THE WEB NEWS?  fakir005@... | 11/30/05
Oh wow man  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 11/30/05
Smart decision!  An_Axe_to_Grind | 11/30/05
Choir preaching?  frabjous | 11/30/05
winzealot and other astroturfers  theo_durcan | 12/01/05
Typhoon victims  phogue@... | 12/01/05
I thought it was all market share...  TheCrow_z | 12/01/05
LMAO @ Chicken Little  phogue@... | 12/01/05
Suse Linux 10  2-cycle | 12/01/05
My friend  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 12/01/05
Imagine a news story for MS patches  chasisaac | 12/01/05
Built in Security Features?!  Andromedat6 | 12/01/05
Re:Built in Security Features?!  phogue@... | 12/02/05
Built in Security Features?!  Andromedat6 | 12/01/05
Built in Security Features?!  Andromedat6 | 12/01/05
More Mac-Hating nonsense  theMacDaddy | 12/01/05
Re:More Mac-Hating nonsense  phogue@... | 12/02/05
Bottom Line  phogue@... | 12/02/05

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