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I think they call that "Progress"
I've still got my old DOS floppy disks - you can have them if you want.
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Novell: We were wrong again  Loverock Davidson | 09/12/05
novell, you used to be so good?  specialk_z | 09/12/05
But this is not just about Novel vs Linux.  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
Let me rephrase  Loverock Davidson | 09/12/05
685 days is not a record  balsover | 09/14/05
Corporations are not sick of increased complexity and new hardware costs???  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
Huh? The only reason to upgrade is...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/05
Really?  Michael Kelly | 09/12/05
Exactly  Tim Patterson | 09/13/05
Oh, security, stability, simplicity, cost, mean NOTHING to corporations????  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
Sure it's importtant, but only in balance with other issues.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/05
Corporations do NOT want to trade security and stability for anything.  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
Here we go again  Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
Only if you are right  osreinstall | 09/13/05
Re: Sure it's importtant, but only in balance with other issues  none none | 09/12/05
RE: Sure it's importtant, but only in balance with other issues.  nightshade0143 | 09/13/05
They mean a lot  NonZealot | 09/12/05
I think there is something missing in these talks about  Laff | 09/12/05
Re: They mean a lot  none none | 09/12/05
Or because MS is refusing to support you any more?  Zogg | 09/12/05
Does Red Hat support version 9?  balsover | 09/14/05
exactly, this is why i'm on win2k  Valis Keogh | 09/12/05
I agree with you 100%, stay on Win2k  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
The actual product was good  Michael Kelly | 09/12/05
Hey Mike, I noticed that you can download ...  Judas I. | 09/12/05
Novell was not that good  balsover | 09/14/05
Linux IS killing Windows, Rockhead.  Judas I. | 09/12/05
Really care to show that in dollars?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/05
Now, let me show you how ridiculous that statement is, Axey.  Judas I. | 09/12/05
Not on the desktop.  osreinstall | 09/12/05
Read my response to Axey, above, osreinstall.  Judas I. | 09/12/05
Been hearing that too long  osreinstall | 09/12/05
Well, I gotta say that I think you're wrong on this one.  Judas I. | 09/13/05
Really  osreinstall | 09/13/05
If "one of the selling points for Vista" is ...  Judas I. | 09/14/05
That is a little drastic and overstated  osreinstall | 09/14/05
re  jimk_z | 09/13/05
You just don't get it  jfp | 09/12/05
I get it  Loverock Davidson | 09/12/05
See, Rockhead REALLY doesn't get it.  Judas I. | 09/13/05
that is a very large 'only' that you list  balsover | 09/14/05
Clueless  Roger Ramjet | 09/13/05
Your Just a Hater  Edward@... | 09/13/05
windows is now like Unix..Its fragmented.  jimk_z | 09/13/05
Another report.  vdraken | 09/12/05
RE: Another report  Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
Could not agree more. Microsoft is not focusing on what corporate customers  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
they are simply incapable of delivering a  michael_t | 09/12/05
I AGREE 100%  the_slash | 09/12/05
I think they call that "Progress"  SteveG123 | 09/12/05
You are making crap up again as usual.  osreinstall | 09/12/05
What's the point? What the hell...  GuyAlanDye | 09/13/05
I-Tunes work on Windows  voska | 09/13/05
That's fair...  GuyAlanDye | 09/13/05
You still don't have it straight.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 09/13/05
Good Gawd, Here We Go...  GuyAlanDye | 09/14/05
Dude, give up this obsession with MS  John Zern | 09/12/05
I'd be happy to.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 09/13/05
Spoken like a cubical drone  Chad_z | 09/14/05
Of course  Edward@... | 09/13/05
What do you expect the competition to say?  osreinstall | 09/12/05
But those on NT and Win2000, that won' t get upgrades??  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
Vista has multiple distros.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/05
Sure thing: blue, red, green, yellow, orange, teale and high-contrast  michael_t | 09/12/05
Said the guy without a clue.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/05
He is arguing differences will be cosmetic, Vista will NOT run on 256 MB.  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
Yes, But Linux Will  itanalyst | 09/12/05
Yeah... And...?  Wolfie2K3 | 09/13/05
The word you want is version, not distro (or distrib)  B.O.F.H. | 09/12/05
Either works for me and for you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/05
But they have NOT planned one that will work on 256 MB.  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
So what? Do you know the price of RAM lately?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/05
It is not just the RAM, it is the whole system performance.  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
Open case, install ram. 5 minutes  osreinstall | 09/12/05
And, after installing that RAM, it still won't run Vista.  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
So now you are doing your job.  osreinstall | 09/12/05
As of NOW, Vista won't run on 256MB, yes,Linux might force MS to reconsider  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
Wishful thinking  osreinstall | 09/12/05
Oh, I see, Microsoft is stupid?? Discounts for stuff that does NOT work???  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
Just in case  osreinstall | 09/12/05
Poppycock!  Wolfie2K3 | 09/13/05
Irrelevant, if the RAM won't fit in your motherboard.  Zogg | 09/12/05
Stupid is as Stupid does  tystoy1 | 09/14/05
Hardware has a finite life.  osreinstall | 09/12/05
You seem to think that all corporations have unlimited resources.  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
you seem to think  IT Scion | 09/12/05
If the pain of the security problems is less than the pain of Linux,  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
You think linux is the only variable.  osreinstall | 09/12/05
Most companies keep hardware if works good and had the uumph needed  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
Large companies have a upgrade schedule.  osreinstall | 09/12/05
So corporations can throw away money because it is tax deductable???  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
It is just business.  osreinstall | 09/12/05
Corporations will implement the DRM  voska | 09/12/05
But, they aint a gona buy Vista just to get DRM.  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
They will chance it.  osreinstall | 09/12/05
With or without DRM, Linux beats Windows hands down on security.  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
You know this for sure?  osreinstall | 09/12/05
You are dreaming if you thing DRM is the answer to security.  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
We haven't seen it yet.  osreinstall | 09/12/05
Villy: DRM would work there  voska | 09/13/05
Consumers can DRM their own work too.  osreinstall | 09/13/05
Exactly what I meant.  osreinstall | 09/12/05
DRM might help if run on a SECURE platform.  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
Most are going with Vista  osreinstall | 09/12/05
Read up, very few corporations are planning to use Vista.  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
Another wish on your list  osreinstall | 09/12/05
Of course they will stick with W2K or XP  voska | 09/13/05
Anyone using NT or Windows 95 is not in the same market  balsover | 09/14/05
Gee  Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
I knew you would come around eventually.  osreinstall | 09/12/05
Keep dreaming...  Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
Well you were lucid for 5 seconds.  osreinstall | 09/12/05
Yeah right....  Tommy Gun | 09/12/05
Could this be because  IT_User | 09/12/05
RE:  proxer | 09/13/05
Nuff Said...  Wolfie2K3 | 09/13/05
well...  KewlAzMe | 09/14/05
Vista will drive users away from MS  Otto_Delete | 09/12/05
Bad timing for OS X  rpmyers1 | 09/12/05
Perhaps, but...  tic swayback | 09/12/05
Good point.  opensourcepro | 09/12/05
So then Apple is throwing away it's HW side?  IT Scion | 09/12/05
Don't hold your breath  tic swayback | 09/12/05
...And donkeys will fly.  Wolfie2K3 | 09/13/05
but...  KewlAzMe | 09/14/05
as well as the more confusing aspects of it  Oscar_Goldman | 09/12/05
Where did you come up with those numbers?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/05
Yes, Dirt Cheap To Companies  itanalyst | 09/12/05
You'll also need to get a new monitor  Alan Balaoing | 09/12/05
Yiu ar so far out in left field we can't even see you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/05
re  jimk_z | 09/13/05
Nice of Novell to say so  Boot_Agnostic | 09/12/05
Nonsense  wrgpd | 09/12/05
Is Vista compatible  rpmyers1 | 09/12/05
Yup  IT Scion | 09/12/05
Why Novell is really scaring me  Michael Kelly | 09/12/05
What I don't get  rapson | 09/12/05
I don't get it either..  Wolfie2K3 | 09/13/05
Hog Wash, first the user must be considering a new OS...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/05
The article is hogwash?  Michael Kelly | 09/12/05
The premis is hogwash...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/05
Not really  Michael Kelly | 09/12/05
I agree in part.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/05
Re: I agree in part.  none none | 09/12/05
Re: Not really  none none | 09/12/05
Re: Hog Wash, first the user must be considering a new OS...  none none | 09/12/05
As usual nobody has harmed MS MORE than  michael_t | 09/12/05
Again  IT Scion | 09/12/05
Novell's last, gasping breath...  jpr75_z | 09/12/05
MS is screwing up  jimk_z | 09/13/05
only one  tystoy1 | 09/14/05
what about...  KewlAzMe | 09/14/05
actually very clever...  keithx | 09/15/05
Good Riddance  the_slash | 09/12/05
Delay will cost Microsoft  opensourcepro | 09/12/05
So then I can  IT Scion | 09/12/05
Re: Delay will cost Microsoft  ryxr30 | 09/12/05
As long as MS has a stanglehold on VAR's  skeptic tank | 09/12/05
VARs will offer Linux if customers demand it. IBM and others already  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
An "IF" that is never going to happen.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/05
The point is, if you are a large corporation, it is already easy to get  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
Why would they change OS?  Andromedat6 | 09/12/05
Nice  IT Scion | 09/12/05
Funny you should say that...  Zogg | 09/12/05
Funnier  IT Scion | 09/14/05
Why switch to Linux?  hojue | 09/12/05
how about reliability?  Oscar_Goldman | 09/12/05
And you are talking about Windows right  zzz1234567890 | 09/14/05
Novell is gonna be the death of SuSE...  Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
They all suck  osreinstall | 09/12/05
No... just SuSE.  Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
None of them are that fast  osreinstall | 09/12/05
Gentoo  Real World | 09/13/05
I will give it a try.  osreinstall | 09/13/05
Ethernet  Real World | 09/13/05
I had to wait 4 years before deadrat fired up nforce220  osreinstall | 09/13/05
Competition on the desktop?  George Mitchell | 09/12/05
What people forget here, is that we have a huge potential to reduce costs,  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
Tiny potenticial that is yet to be proven.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/05
You didn't hear about the discounts offered to Munich????  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
Tiny potenticial that is yet to be proven  James58 | 09/14/05
Great observation  Richard Flude | 09/12/05
MS will keep giving security fixes for Win2000, and we never had support  DonnieBoy | 09/12/05
Wow. Speaking of "No brainers"  John Zern | 09/12/05
Not sure about this  hipparchus2000 | 09/12/05
Novell has the best NOS in the world - Netware!  bjbrock | 09/12/05
Hey DonnieSoft, you got it wrong again...  John Zern | 09/12/05
I agree...  immrlizard | 09/13/05
.  compguy_z | 09/12/05
Businesses, perhaps, but I doubt home users will  CobraA1 | 09/12/05
Opportunity for Microsoft to Recover  evangelinux | 09/13/05
Whatever.  mockylock | 09/13/05
Same old Novell, degraded Microsoft.  jimk_z | 09/13/05
PIRACY  sushrutdk | 09/13/05
what a joke  rijswijk | 09/14/05
Joe Sixpack Speaks  s_gamgee | 09/14/05
Hardware Upgrade Costs  aulax@... | 09/14/05
Linux had only one chance to compete...  KewlAzMe | 09/14/05
..and..  KewlAzMe | 09/14/05
agreed...  KewlAzMe | 09/14/05
Vista vs. Linux  shanedr | 09/14/05
Vista is more likely to push users to OS X  AldoWatts | 09/14/05
My two cents..  redtrain65 | 09/15/05
why do my colleagues root for MS???  ted.dushane | 09/17/05

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