Yeah, Yeah...
Tim Patterson | 09/09/05
|

Hey...
Anti_Zealot | 09/09/05
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I don't think Gartner considers you, your friends and ...
ShadeTree | 09/09/05
|
 
Linux is only 1 Open Source OS!
B.O.F.H. | 09/09/05
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RE: Yeah, Yeah...
HerbieHightower | 09/09/05
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Report: Open source years from mainstream
Loverock Davidson | 09/09/05
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Linux is not open source.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
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I can see all the source code
voska | 09/09/05
|
  
I can see the space shuttle, I can't use it.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
   
Can you now
voska | 09/09/05
|
    
Email won't allow something that large.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
     
I'll give you my FTP site
voska | 09/09/05
|
     
bitty never changes
bystander_z | 09/11/05
|
   
But you can use it!
Loverock Davidson | 09/09/05
|
    
Actually, you really can use it
tic swayback | 09/09/05
|
     
Thats cool
Loverock Davidson | 09/09/05
|
     
Wasn't all that difficult
tic swayback | 09/09/05
|
    
Cool!
Mark Miller | 09/09/05
|
  
RE: I can see all the source code
nightshade0143 | 09/09/05
|
   
No he is an idot and it seems you are as well
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/09/05
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Did you mean "idiot"?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/05
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Yes I meant idiot...
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/10/05
|
 
Tell me something, Axey.
Judas I. | 09/09/05
|
  
I'd rate that a 1.5 on the insult scale.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
   
You think that was an INSULT? With that comment ...
Judas I. | 09/09/05
|
    
I'm not sure you're getting it
brble | 09/09/05
|
     
Who the heck mentioned IBM?
Judas I. | 09/09/05
|
     
There are others helping to move Linux as well...
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/09/05
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My point was...
brble | 09/09/05
|
     
You really don't get it
bystander_z | 09/11/05
|
     
I think I used the wrong subject line
brble | 09/12/05
|
    
What a useless little rant, this is not about Microsoft.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/05
|
     
If he needs to sit
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/10/05
|
     
What, what? Excuse me Axey, got so busy with ...
Judas I. | 09/12/05
|
   
Why?
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/09/05
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Re: Linux is not open source.
none none | 09/09/05
|
  
Stay tuned..
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
   
Maybe so
IT_User | 09/09/05
|
 
What problem are you having with reading the source code?
B.O.F.H. | 09/09/05
|
  
Who cares if it's mot useable.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
   
So you just want to use other people copyrighted code...
B.O.F.H. | 09/09/05
|
    
Make it truly free and remove the GPL
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
     
The code is covered inder Copyright!
B.O.F.H. | 09/09/05
|
     
Re: Make it truly free and remove the GPL
none none | 09/09/05
|
     
BOFH, not when placed into public domain.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/05
|
   
Odd, I have no trouble use Open Office
voska | 09/09/05
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Trouble using it? Why would I even load it up?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
     
Put down what you can't understand
voska | 09/09/05
|
     
What's to understand, it's a very simple set of apps.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
     
So use something else
IT_User | 09/09/05
|
     
Use somethnig else. You sound a lot like MS
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/05
|
     
No, MS sounds like me
IT_User | 09/10/05
|
   
Does the fact
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/09/05
|
   
You're the one that can't deal with it
bystander_z | 09/11/05
|
 
reading your posts anymore...
Monkey_MCSE | 09/09/05
|
  
reading your posts anymore...
none none | 09/09/05
|
   
No lie at all and I defy you to show otherwise.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
    
hmmm , wake up dude
Monkey_MCSE | 09/09/05
|
     
You mean like Red Hat and IBM make money from Encumbered Source?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
     
re:You mean like Red Hat and IBM make money from Encumbered Source?
Monkey_MCSE | 09/09/05
|
     
Are you suggesting no one sells Linux sans add ons?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
    
What's that have to with being open?
voska | 09/09/05
|
     
No
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/09/05
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Change it, break it
A.Sinic | 09/12/05
|
    
Re: No lie at all and I defy you to show otherwise.
none none | 09/09/05
|
     
Whoa up there little one, I don't claim to be "open" in anyway.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
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Re: Whoa up there little one, I don't claim to be "open" in anyway.
none none | 09/09/05
|
     
Show me where I lied?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
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None None, has "none" tho say.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/05
|
     
Re: Show me where I lied?
bystander_z | 09/11/05
|
    
How is that encumbered?
Sabz5150 | 09/09/05
|
     
A license IS an encumberance?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
     
What I find so hard to grasp is this
Sabz5150 | 09/09/05
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Mandatory Sharing
osreinstall | 09/09/05
|
    
Is Windows "encumbered source" as well?
tic swayback | 09/09/05
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Absolutely, they make no clain to the contrary.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
     
Then I'll expect you to refer to it as such in the future (nt)
tic swayback | 09/09/05
|
     
Don't hold your breath waiting on it.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/05
|
     
My mistake
tic swayback | 09/10/05
|
     
RE: My mistake
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/10/05
|
     
Re: My mistake
none none | 09/10/05
|
    
bitty is confused, as usual
bystander_z | 09/11/05
|
    
Re: Are you suggesting no one sells Linux sans add ons?
bystander_z | 09/11/05
|
  
Do me a favor and don't read them.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
   
if you weren't spreading bull
Monkey_MCSE | 09/09/05
|
    
What bull? It is in fact encumbered by the GPL.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
     
not ranting
Monkey_MCSE | 09/09/05
|
     
Tell, if I change/use the code, am I REQUIRED to give it away?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
     
YOuwould prefer unlicensed usage of Copyrighted code?
B.O.F.H. | 09/09/05
|
     
Why not, I mean if it's "Open" and "Free"..
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
     
Oops, a minor differnece.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
     
Re: What bull? It is in fact encumbered by the GPL.
none none | 09/09/05
|
     
RE: What bull? It is in fact encumbered by the GPL
nightshade0143 | 09/09/05
|
     
NonE None, again show me where I said any such thing.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/05
|
     
Re: NonE None, again show me where I said any such thing.
none none | 09/10/05
|
    
No_Ax does have a point.
osreinstall | 09/09/05
|
     
No_Ax is a Copyright infringer!
B.O.F.H. | 09/09/05
|
     
What's the point?
IT_User | 09/09/05
|
     
BOFH I think you don't get at what he was saying.
osreinstall | 09/09/05
|
     
But not outsiders that you are trying to win over.
osreinstall | 09/09/05
|
     
If No_Ax doesn't like the choice of licence by the Copyright owner
B.O.F.H. | 09/09/05
|
     
osreinstall, you hit it spot on.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/05
|
     
Re: osreinstall, you hit it spot on.
none none | 09/10/05
|
     
Re: No_Ax does have a point.
none none | 09/10/05
|
     
Fanatic agnosticism?
Jay Cash | 09/10/05
|
     
No, Jay
IT_User | 09/10/05
|
     
Re: No, Jay
none none | 09/10/05
|
     
BOFH you are full of crap
osreinstall | 09/10/05
|
     
You other clowns, I was resonding to Monkey
osreinstall | 09/10/05
|
     
Re: You other clowns, I was resonding to Monkey
none none | 09/10/05
|
     
Your done done
osreinstall | 09/10/05
|
   
How can we not?
bystander_z | 09/11/05
|
 
Encimbered is what it is, and that's what I will call it.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
 
FACT, Linux is Encumbered by the GPL terms.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
  
FACT MS shard Source is encumbered too
Monkey_MCSE | 09/09/05
|
   
Glad to see you agree with me.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
    
i don't see GPL as encumbered
Monkey_MCSE | 09/09/05
|
     
One man's medicine...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
     
Re: One man's medicine...
none none | 09/10/05
|
  
Re:FACT, Linux is Encumbered by the GPL terms.
none none | 09/09/05
|
  
If you assert a "fact"
IT_User | 09/09/05
|
   
No, a tiny minority have participated, the others know better.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/05
|
    
Your "tiny minority"
IT_User | 09/10/05
|
    
Re: No, a tiny minority have participated, the others know better.
none none | 09/10/05
|
  
Stop crying aboutthe authosr choice of liense.
B.O.F.H. | 09/10/05
|
   
Look slow one, no one is stealong anything.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/05
|
    
Re: Look slow one, no one is stealong anything.
none none | 09/10/05
|
    
Under Copyright Law and Intellectual Property Law, it is infringement.
B.O.F.H. | 09/10/05
|
   
So saith the pitbull at the junkyard !
osreinstall | 09/10/05
|
  
only one crying is bitty
bystander_z | 09/11/05
|
 
Let me guess
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/09/05
|
 
Now that's the supidest remark I've seen you make yet
NemesisNL | 09/11/05
|

Uh oh, lost yer dictionary, did ya, Rockhead?
Judas I. | 09/09/05
|
and in other news.. Gartner...
doh123 | 09/09/05
|

Sour Grapes huh?
just^me | 09/09/05
|
Does anyone take Gartner seriously anymore
voska | 09/09/05
|

Yes.
Anton Philidor | 09/09/05
|
 
Gartner used be good
voska | 09/09/05
|

Only business's
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
 
When taken with a grain of salt
IT_User | 09/09/05
|
  
Isn't that true of every "report"?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/05
|
   
Well that explains it!!!
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/10/05
|

I agree
opensourcepro | 09/09/05
|
Questionable study...
Mike Cox | 09/09/05
|

Wow.
opensourcepro | 09/09/05
|

Mike, I heard...
Anton Philidor | 09/09/05
|
A key sentence
Anton Philidor | 09/09/05
|

Oh, and...
Anton Philidor | 09/09/05
|

Exactly
opensourcepro | 09/09/05
|

Not sure what the relevance is
IT_User | 09/09/05
|
Why?
opensourcepro | 09/09/05
|
It's all false
Boot_Agnostic | 09/09/05
|

wow boot, you got all of that
Monkey_MCSE | 09/09/05
|

You don't rant when they something positive about Linux.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
 
He doesn't need to
IT_User | 09/09/05
|
  
Is that your best, "retort"?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/05
|
   
Not at all
IT_User | 09/10/05
|
 
I'll give you that one
NemesisNL | 09/11/05
|
Mainstream? So what is 'mainstream'?
George Mitchell | 09/09/05
|

They don't want to argue with you George, you make too much sense.
DonnieBoy | 09/09/05
|

Hype? You mean like saying it's "free"?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/05
|
 
It is free boy
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/10/05
|
ROFL!
Chad_z | 09/09/05
|

In the part of the report not quoted...
Anton Philidor | 09/09/05
|
 
Do you have any idea ....
voska | 09/09/05
|
 
What?
opensourcepro | 09/09/05
|
Not understanding the argument.
DemonX | 09/09/05
|

I agree, but do NOT call it "Open" or "Free".
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
 
Who made you the word sheriff?
tic swayback | 09/09/05
|
  
No, the elephants are encumbered.
Anton Philidor | 09/09/05
|
   
No, my window is encumbered
tic swayback | 09/09/05
|
    
Your window is open and pleased to greet the world...
Anton Philidor | 09/09/05
|
     
Silly Anton
tic swayback | 09/09/05
|
  
should be interesting tic
Monkey_MCSE | 09/09/05
|
  
Same folks that said "Shared Source" was misleading.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/05
|
   
What is misleadng about "Shred Source"?
B.O.F.H. | 09/10/05
|
   
Re: Same folks that said "Shared Source" was misleading.
bystander_z | 09/12/05
|
 
Free to use - not to package and sell.
maxo_z | 09/09/05
|
  
Correction
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/09/05
|
  
Are you sure?
DemonX | 09/09/05
|
   
Oh thats right!
DemonX | 09/09/05
|
   
You are correct.. (NT)
widge_z | 09/09/05
|
   
Maybe This Will Help
Ole Man | 02/01/07
|
 
Don't be ridiculous ...
George Mitchell | 09/09/05
|
  
So you agree it is anything but "free".
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/05
|
   
Still wrong
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/10/05
|
   
For me, its free ... but its not free for people like you ...
George Mitchell | 09/10/05
|

Background
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/09/05
|
 
I was Inclined to respond to him
Ole Man | 02/01/07
|
Did they tak to Google when working on this report????
DonnieBoy | 09/09/05
|

Some don't understand...
Tim Patterson | 09/09/05
|
Open Source...Not yet!
macaso | 09/09/05
|
The report is correct
michael_t | 09/09/05
|
Hmmm - Gartner "hype cycle" says Linux Mid-tier Apps 0 to 2 years out...
Plain Logic | 09/09/05
|
You're right George
Richard Flude | 09/09/05
|
Microsoft sees the writing on the wall . . .
Plain Logic | 09/10/05
|

LEt me help, this is an article about Linux, not MS.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/05
|
 
Who is one of Garters largest funding authorities?
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/10/05
|
 
Again, the infantile No-Ax resorts to name calling...
Plain Logic | 09/10/05
|
Please stay away from "mainstream"!
An_Axe_to_Grind | 09/10/05
|
The Cox watch 2!
An_Axe_to_Grind | 09/10/05
|
Somebody had to look up the word free.
osreinstall | 09/10/05
|

Why do you care so ardently?
IT_User | 09/10/05
|
 
Tired of the bull
osreinstall | 09/10/05
|
  
So our industry is fundamentally flawed?
IT_User | 09/10/05
|
   
Pretty much so.
osreinstall | 09/10/05
|

Again with the word games?
B.O.F.H. | 09/10/05
|
 
A self serving definition
osreinstall | 09/10/05
|
  
Face it you and your buddy
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/10/05
|
   
You are wrong haggis breath
osreinstall | 09/10/05
|
    
"3-5% of the population"?? . . . BZZZZT . . . Wrong again...
Plain Logic | 09/11/05
|
     
That is right
osreinstall | 09/11/05
|
  
This goes back to 1971.
B.O.F.H. | 09/10/05
|
   
I thought it was the late 80s
osreinstall | 09/10/05
|
    
The GPL is only a usage license.
B.O.F.H. | 09/11/05
|
     
Ok, I thought GPL was your baby
osreinstall | 09/11/05
|
     
osreinstall, at least try and get the date right!
B.O.F.H. | 09/11/05
|
     
Read 4.4BSD instead of 3rd party opinion pieces.
osreinstall | 09/11/05
|
     
BSD 4.4 was in 1992, BSD 4.3 was in 1990...
B.O.F.H. | 09/11/05
|
     
I only pulled it from their site
osreinstall | 09/11/05
|
  
RE: That is right
Monkey_MCSE | 09/11/05
|
   
No Unix screwed the pooch instead.
osreinstall | 09/11/05
|
    
It is free
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/11/05
|
     
No it isn't
osreinstall | 09/11/05
|
     
Oh yes it is~
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/11/05
|
     
Only in your deluded religious mind.
osreinstall | 09/11/05
|
     
Sorry, I beg to differ...
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/11/05
|
     
You are good at begging
osreinstall | 09/12/05
|
     
Still don't get it do you nancy boy...
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
|
     
You fell for it, not me.
osreinstall | 09/12/05
|
     
Still wrong...
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
|
     
Whatever gets you thru the night.
osreinstall | 09/12/05
|
     
Now the truth comes out!
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
|

You have just excluded the word "free" from our vocabulary ...
George Mitchell | 09/11/05
|
 
You are starting to catch on Grasshopper
osreinstall | 09/11/05
|
  
LOL
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/11/05
|
   
Whatever Sheepdip
osreinstall | 09/11/05
|
    
interesting you should mention misleading..
Monkey_MCSE | 09/11/05
|
     
All clergy get mad when you prove their religion is false.
osreinstall | 09/11/05
|
     
RE: All clergy get mad when you prove their religion is false.
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/11/05
|
     
Stupid Rant
osreinstall | 09/11/05
|
     
You and your boytoy
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/11/05
|
     
Your bold statements say otherwise!
osreinstall | 09/12/05
|
     
Bold statements? In your mind maybe...
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
|
     
You are name calling
osreinstall | 09/12/05
|
     
Oh, now we are in grade school... well you started it
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
|
     
Didn't you know?
Ole Man | 02/01/07
|
    
There is no misleading...
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/11/05
|
     
All advertising is bull.
osreinstall | 09/11/05
|
     
Ha!
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/11/05
|
     
You are arrogant
osreinstall | 09/12/05
|
     
Poor lil nancy boy...
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
|
     
You are blinded pond jumper
osreinstall | 09/12/05
|
     
No lassie, tis you that is blinded... blinded by corporate greed
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
|
  
Hey, troll...
Fred Fredrickson | 09/12/05
|
   
Hey, Nutball
osreinstall | 09/12/05
|

You seem to be wrong here
bystander_z | 09/12/05
|
 
Another one that needs a dictionary.
osreinstall | 09/12/05
|
  
So your the
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
|
   
Who knows what is in haggis
osreinstall | 09/12/05
|
    
Have some haggis recipes.
B.O.F.H. | 09/12/05
|
     
Sheep guts I'll pass
osreinstall | 09/12/05
|
     
Gee can't even get the name right can ya!?
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
|
     
They also are very stubborn
osreinstall | 09/12/05
|
     
Stubborn... yes, quiet... usually
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
|
    
Any good Scot can tell ya what's in haggis.
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
|
     
Scots don't bother me, you do
osreinstall | 09/12/05
|
     
Well isn't that nice...
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
|
     
Under my skin. Not quite
osreinstall | 09/12/05
|
     
In all seriousness...
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/12/05
|
Funny, we've been running our company on it for years...
JonathonDoe | 09/12/05
|

And, to your company's thought out and researched process
Boot_Agnostic | 09/12/05
|
No Creditability
Sheeva | 09/15/05
|
Never read such tripe in my life!
Ole Man | 02/01/07
|